Chest development question

[Mrrippedzilla]

LOL I criticise Colker (not you) and yet you decide to get personal and insult me relentlessly hmm?

.. By doing or relying on others,, let alone relying on midget stuff shirt little man syndrome guys stuck behind a computer screen writing articles and telling guys what they are supposed to do cause they are always right, and everyone should trust in these nerds that probably have no real life or success..

My "real life" involves coaching natural bodybuilders BUT my main income is from investments - this allows me to do whatever the fuck I want to do with my spare time. My money works for me, I don't work for it.
However, I also don't see the need to try and justify how well I'm doing to a bunch of strangers on a forum - unlike you.

The information I try and provide in my articles in my thread is purely because I felt that people may benefit from my knowledge and experience.
I do it when I can for free because I enjoy it - talking about training/diet/supplements, etc is not a chore to me.
I don't force my views on anyone here, most people actively reach out to me for help.

Sure I'll use them like a little whore, I'll take all the knowledge they've learned giving their free time and life away for it, but I'm just using the bitches.. So keep researching bitches, I'll use what I want from you like I would a whore but I won't follow .. OR RELY on you ..

Most members here are grateful to guys like me for taking the time out of my life to provide them with information to help achieve their goals. This is going to sound very weird to you but - I actually enjoy seeing others succeed.
Yet you have the audacity to read/use the information me & others provide for FREE and then bitch and moan about how we're trying to make people rely on us?
This makes you an asshole.


Also, if your so successful in life - why the fuck are you MORE active on this board than I am?
You have more posts, in a shorter time span, than I do on this forum and yet you accuse ME of wasting my free time?
Why do you feel the need to boast about your accomplishments that no one really cares about?
Why have you hijacked the OP's topic of chest development to go on a random rant about yourself?

Nevermind, at least you've shown us your true personality for future reference

 

[Roush]

I didn't go off because you criticized Colker - I can care less about Colker.. Any of my posts regarding my workouts, it's pretty obvious I don't follow anything Colker suggests.
I mention Colkers opinion about chest development, which may very well be a valid opinion.. Yet you go off on a different topic about some kid almost died and that it's Colkers fault and that he is an idiot and that I AM relying on this idiot.. So you criticized me by accusing me of relying on an idiot,

I went off on my boast to prove that I don't rely on anyone, let alone idiots.. If I relied on idiots my whole life I would not be where I'm at,,, no one cares about my success, I know that, I simply stated those things because I was accused of relying on idiots.

As for you writing articles and doing research studies and posting information.. Good I'm glad you and others do, I'm glad there is a wealth of information out there for guys to tap into.. So I will USE what ever information I deem beneficial for me (thanks, you've just worked for me for free... But I have no problem using people). Hey, I'm at least grateful, I said "thanks" didn't I.. Keep up the good work,, cause your not wasting your free time working for me, and others.
But stop neg repping people just cause you have a different opinion.


A lot of personal trainers and coaches, have a "god syndrome", think they know it all and the client should just simply do everything you tell them to do, rely on you completely, trust you completely, and do exactly as you say.... I disagree with this approach and think the client should know his own body better then the coach and not be such a pussy as to completely rely on someone else..
I'm not saying you do this with your clients,,, but I get the impression "trust in the zilla" means something similar to that.

As for my post count-- what's it F'n matter.. We've both been members the same length of time and have similar post counts.. And being my money works for me,, just like you say yours works for you,, I don't have to work.. I can sit around and prepare 6 meals a day, work out twice a day, have my iPad with me and post all day long.. Maybe take an important phone call here and there,, but what's it matter to you.... The last week or so I've had a nasty cold, having been going out much,, so I've been sitting around entertaining myself arguing with guys like you. . Now you know why my post count has went up lately,, but who the fuk cares why someone is posting often or not.

Heck look at tboneXL - he's been a member for less time then us and has over 4 times the post count we do... You want to call him out for that? Call someone out based on posting amount, whatever ..

 

[Roush]

Honestly nobody cares. Good for you but this aint the Forbes forum and your coming off a lil off.

Edit -- comment not necessary

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Yea...you completely misinterpreted my post.
You may not have been aware of why Colker shouldn't be relied upon, so I explained it to you and recommended not taking him seriously.
You taking it as a personal criticism is your hang up.

I have NEVER neg repped you according to my rep history - clearly other people thought you were being an asshole as well.

I also brought up the post count because YOU accused people like ME of wasting time on here writing articles and having no life - when your more active on here than I am.
Its called hypocrisy.

And as for this view:

A lot of personal trainers and coaches, have a "god syndrome", think they know it all and the client should just simply do everything you tell them to do, rely on you completely, trust you completely, and do exactly as you say.... I disagree with this approach and think the client should know his own body better then the coach and not be such a pussy as to completely rely on someone else..
I'm not saying you do this with your clients,,, but I get the impression "trust in the zilla" means something similar to that.

Your absolutely right, that does describe me.

But its not a "god syndrome", its a "your paying me to help you so why the fuck are you not listening to me" syndrome.
Frankly if you don't want to rely/trust/listen to your coach, then what was the point of hiring him in the first place? There's a good reason why I REJECT potential clients after a consultation period.

Its not a coincidence that the majority of successful athletes (and bodybuilders) now all have coaches that guide them.
So your point about the client knowing his body better than the coach simply doesn't apply in reality - fact.
There are bodybuilders who do it all themselves of course, but they are very much in the minority - there's a good reason for that

 

[bigben66]

I used to think you were a respectable and decent 'Ology member Roush...

But you really are letting yourself down and painting a different picture on this thread.

Real shame you are acting like this, real shame!

 

[Roush]

I agree with the need for coaching. -- I disagree on a client relying SOLEY on his coach and not listening to his own body..
I'm just saying, of course you wanna trust your coach, that's why you hired him in the first place, but you don't want to blindly rely on and blindly trust him

 

[49ER]

In his defense 99% of people that give advice here are not coaches and i believe he's referring to all the cut and paste experts we have here. I crindge at some of the shit i here here but dont say anything. And not all studies are real because you read it dont take offense if it doesn't apply

 

[Roush]

I used to think you were a respectable and decent 'Ology member Roush...

But you really are letting yourself down and painting a different picture on this thread.

Real shame you are acting like this, real shame!

Nobody's perfect man... I tend to become a real asshole when I'm running gear. I'm fine with that ,, others may not be

 

[tbonexl]

I don't bring my personal business here. It doesn't benefit anybody and its nobodys business. I think the time change got everybody all fucked up. Never seen this much bullshit pop off so quick. Whatever...

 

[Roush]

OP - sorry for involving myself in the side tracking of your thread

I may be an asshole but not so prideful that I can't see a fault in my actions and apologize.

You asked for advice on chest development.. I gave you one mans opinion, the opinion of a guy that happens to be a former pro body builder and a practicing medical doctor... His opinion on developing the upper chest and reason for emphasizing that makes some sense, IMO..

Now when someone came in and side tracked this thread and made it about this guy, Dr. Colker, and made it NOT about the chest development opinion, but about how big an idiot Colker is and how I'm relying on this idiot..... I reacted to the side track and went off on a tangent, cause I don't take the mentioning of me relying on idiots for my advice lightly..
So again I apologize OP -