Clen/test prop/winny/eq. 8-week cycle

[Berlin0011]

Hey guys. just started my second cycle. My first cycle was 2 years ago, I had dbol and test e for 8 weeks. I just want to know what are your thoughts about my cycle plan this year.

Weeks 1-2 test prop EOD 100mg
Weeks 1-5 EQ twice a week 200mg
Weeks 1-8 Winny EOD 50mg
Clen 2 wks on 2 off
2tabs AM 2tabs PM

I would appreciate all your comments/suggestions.

Thanks!

 

[Milton]

where is your Ai and hcg? pct plan? and your first cycle was 8 weeks long pinning test e?? do you know about half lives for test E?

 

[Full Blown]

Hmmmmm
That cycle makes zero sense to me. You may want to revisit cycling basics brother.

I'd go back to a regular long estered test for at least 12 weeks.
Just my opinion.

And research more.

 

[scorob777]

That's a curious cycle plan. Here's what your blood levels will look like

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Yellow is the Test Prop, blue is the EQ, red is the winny, black is the total.

This shows you'll be suppressed 100% up to week 9-1/2 (blood levels great than 14), then blood levels take another five weeks or so to get down to 2.5 which is still about 18% suppressed.

So I wonder, what is your body going to do for testosterone from about week 4 or 5 onward? You'll be ok for estrogen because the EQ will aromatize, but you'll have zero testosterone for about 10 weeks or so. And that's assuming your going to PCT starting about week 9-1/2 and run for five weeks, if you don't do that you'll have low testosterone for a good long while.

What would you hope to gain from this approach that you couldn't do with a more traditional one? Like why not run test prop and winny 8 weeks, forget the EQ, and start PCT week 9 for four weeks? Should be every bit as effective, give your body testosterone, and have a higher chance of successful PCT.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Weeks 1-2 test prop EOD 100mg
Weeks 1-5 EQ twice a week 200mg
Weeks 1-8 Winny EOD 50mg
Clen 2 wks on 2 off
2tabs AM 2tabs PM

I would appreciate all your comments/suggestions.

Thanks!

I did recognize a problem with test timing, got a problem

Hmmmmm
That cycle makes zero sense to me. You may want to revisit cycling basics brother.

I'd go back to a regular long estered test for at least 12 weeks.
Just my opinion.

And research more.

That's a curious cycle plan. Here's what your blood levels will look like

So I wonder, what is your body going to do for testosterone from about week 4 or 5 onward? You'll be ok for estrogen because the EQ will aromatize, but you'll have zero testosterone for about 10 weeks or so. And that's assuming your going to PCT starting about week 9-1/2 and run for five weeks, if you don't do that you'll have low testosterone for a good long while.

What would you hope to gain from this approach that you couldn't do with a more traditional one? Like why not run test prop and winny 8 weeks, forget the EQ, and start PCT week 9 for four weeks? Should be every bit as effective, give your body testosterone, and have a higher chance of successful PCT.

Well there really not much more i could say that hasn't been said because these ^^^ are to the point and I concur. NO offense.
But also running Winstrol for 8 weeks i would not advise... due to your joint's. Too long IMOP

You should come up with a different plan and let thew embers look again.

Good Luck

OMM

 

[Mycelium]

What are your goals? Testosterone by itself gets underestimated a lot. With a timeline of 8 weeks, shorter esters make more sense. The graph shows how the level of EQ peaks late in the game. Just about the time you would stop pinning it.

If a short cycle is what you want a short esters is what you need.

With steroids suppressing natural testosterone a base dose of 100-150mg per wk would need to be there for natural processes. With experienced members here, and lots of other places, testosterone is the "base" of any cycle. Even if it's a replacement dose, testosterone is always included. If you're going to pin some test, why not run it at 500mg wk? Proven effective and pretty standard.

 

[oldmusclemike]

WTF are we doing ... OP hasn't been back since 6-18-18 ah , a few months ago Milton. I didn't catch it... where are we going with this thread, ??

OP has not come back since... his post. What a waste of time here... OP where did ya go.....

OMM

 

[scorob777]

Didn't notice that Mike. Betcha a donut he did the cycle. Wonder what his results were?