Confusion (Deca Dick or Clomid sides?) Help and advice appreciated

[itsstillme]

Ok so this is kind of an extension of an older thread of mine, but it is a new situation and a new question so I figured I'd post it as a new thread. Hope this is ok. Anyway 3.5 months post deca 200 and Sustanon (sust) 250 cycle my doctor started me on 50mg of Clomid EOD. Before the Clomid I was able to obtain a weak erection in the morning hours with sexual thoughts and pretty easily with self stimulation but was not getting morning wood upon awakening. I also had a low (but existant!) sex drive at that point. I attributed this to the low test I had (which at this point had risen from 76 after 2 months post cycle to 302 at 3 months all without PCT) Now 9 days after starting the Clomid my Libido is slowly returning (although at the start of the Clomid it went from being low to non existant) and this morning I woke with morning wood after a sexual dream for the first time since the end of my cycle. Even though I awoke with morning wood, when I am awake I have been unable to obtain an erection with sexual thoughts and it is VERY difficult to even manually stimulate an erection. Also since i have been on the Clomid I have had trouble staying asleep and have had nightmares (which i have read both things are common). I guess my question is could the Clomid be causing a temporary worsening of ED or is this deca Dick? and if so could it be permanent? I know that may be a rediculous question and my endo says there is no way after one cycle of steroids (that he considers pretty mild) I could have permanent ED. He assures me that my erections and Libido will return in time. Any advice or input? is this normal? Btw I am 21 years of age and this was my first and LAST cycle as it is obvious I am not mentally or physically stable enough to handle gear. Also I am getting on Tribulus and Unleashed to help increase Libido and erections. My main question is what could be causing this inability to get an erection while conscious and is deca dick permanent after one 6 week cycle injecting 1 cc every 5 days? Thanks for your time in advance and I am sorry to bother you guys with these questions. I will say that I really appreciate your time and help and hope to get this matter resolved. Obviously since I have been on Clomid it has been an emotional roller coaster so any reassurance wud be great. thanks guys

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i agree with the DR

 

[itsstillme]

Thanks DET-OAK. So no need to worry of it being permanent? And do you think everything will return exactly to normal? Also do you think the ED is a result of the clomid or still the deca? Thanks so much for the quick input!

 

[itsstillme]

Anyone else with any advice for a rook? I know I'm annoying as f*ck and I'm sry but I need help coping and understandiing what is goin on

 

[itsstillme]

No one else? Ok well thanks neway

 

[itsstillme]

Dam I was really hopin for more input...

 

[itsstillme]

Bump....u guys are doggin me. Come on bros

 

[5x10]

Anyone else with any advice for a rook? I know I'm annoying as f*ck and I'm sry but I need help coping and understandiing what is goin on

how long after your last shot of deca did you start post cycle therapy (pct)?
what did your post cycle therapy (pct) consist of?
also, did you run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at anytime during your last cycle


my last cycle 4 yrs ago took me aprox 6 months to recover from
heres where i think i messed up

started my serms too soon after my last shot of deca, therefore making my post cycle therapy (pct) null(deca is highly suppresive with a very long ester attached, so it takes a long time to get levels low enough not to keep your supressed)

ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and nolvadex for a post cycle therapy (pct)

didnt run clomid until about 3-4 months after cycle as i did blood test and found i had 214 test level

didnt run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout cycle, onyl took a couple of 1000iu shots if i remember correctly, didnt take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and ran it during post cycle therapy (pct)

i think you will recover, it could have been avoided, and clomid is a must for post cycle therapy (pct)
took me from a 214 to 640, and i had to quit it after 10 days due to the emotional sides

 

[itsstillme]

5 x 10 thanks for the response man. Being the naive dumbass I am I ran no pct and my source bailed on me wn I needed it. Then it took me 2 months after cycle to get in with an endocrinologist. I saw 2. The first one said he wanted me to recover naturally and if I didn't he'd give me Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (this was 2.5 months post cycle) but then he said I didn't seem to have testicular atrophy anymore and my levels of test were already halfway back so he said he wud advize against Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and said he wudnt give clomid. So then I saw the 2nd endo a month after that (3.5 months out) and he said he wudnt do Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at this point bc it might hender my hpta further) but he did start me on clomid 50 mgs 3 times a week for 6 weeks. This is my 9th day and my libido and erections have been none existant since but I have woken up with morning wood twice. Any input on this? Clomid is killing my sleep. I get 6 hurs if I'm lucky and if I wake up at night there is no falliing back asleep. I'm also very emotional and paranoid yl on it and this whole thing and my dick not working consumes my every thought. Is what is happening to me normal? And cud the clomid be temporarily suppressing my libido bc of the estrogen effects or is it def deca dick. I only ask bc b4 the clomid I cud get an erection off sexual thoughts during my morning classes but now nothing. Plz help.

 

[itsstillme]

bump. anyone else please? thanks guys

 

[thetruepitbull]

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[pickle bunny]

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[itsstillme]

pickle bunny ur a f*ckin joke man. Im on here tryin 2 get help and u waste ur time putting me down bc iv gotten myself into a mess. Go F*ck urself man. u were probably that fat kid who got picked on at school and beaten by his dad so now u spend ur time on message boards preying on the weak. grow up, get a soul, and leave me the f*ck alone. Ur about the only person iv run into on this board that uses other peoples struggles to make urself feel better. Theres no other explanation for it. and ur "Crying Wolf" analogy makes absolutely no f*cking sense. The boy who cried wolf had no problems, he was fucking with everyone. I have problems, im trying to get help any and every way I can. So ur just making urself look like a complete moron everytime u say that. Just go eat shit man. Every one else I apologize for the hostility and thanks for YOUR help and for not being a complete asshole like our good member pickle bunny here.

 

[pickle bunny]

pickle bunny ur a f*ckin joke man. Im on here tryin 2 get help and u waste ur time putting me down bc iv gotten myself into a mess. Go F*ck urself man. u were probably that fat kid who got picked on at school and beaten by his dad so now u spend ur time on message boards preying on the weak. grow up, get a soul, and leave me the f*ck alone. Ur about the only person iv run into on this board that uses other peoples struggles to make urself feel better. Theres no other explanation for it. and ur "Crying Wolf" analogy makes absolutely no f*cking sense. The boy who cried wolf had no problems, he was fucking with everyone. I have problems, im trying to get help any and every way I can. So ur just making urself look like a complete moron everytime u say that. Just go eat shit man. Every one else I apologize for the hostility and thanks for YOUR help and for not being a complete asshole like our good member pickle bunny here.

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[bighurt35]

In all honesty you need to relax... Stress can have a terrible effect on libido and everything else in life... YOU SHOULD BE FINE... worrying about it everyday isn't gonna help. Listen to your doctor, eat clean, hit the gym, and get some sleep.

 

[5x10]

5 x 10 thanks for the response man. Being the naive dumbass I am I ran no post cycle therapy (pct) and my source bailed on me wn I needed it. Then it took me 2 months after cycle to get in with an endocrinologist. I saw 2. The first one said he wanted me to recover naturally and if I didn't he'd give me Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (this was 2.5 months post cycle) but then he said I didn't seem to have testicular atrophy anymore and my levels of test were already halfway back so he said he wud advize against Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and said he wudnt give clomid. So then I saw the 2nd endo a month after that (3.5 months out) and he said he wudnt do Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at this point bc it might hender my hpta further) but he did start me on clomid 50 mgs 3 times a week for 6 weeks. This is my 9th day and my libido and erections have been none existant since but I have woken up with morning wood twice. Any input on this? Clomid is killing my sleep. I get 6 hurs if I'm lucky and if I wake up at night there is no falliing back asleep. I'm also very emotional and paranoid yl on it and this whole thing and my dick not working consumes my every thought. Is what is happening to me normal? And cud the clomid be temporarily suppressing my libido bc of the estrogen effects or is it def deca dick. I only ask bc b4 the clomid I cud get an erection off sexual thoughts during my morning classes but now nothing. Plz help.

consider yourself 9 days into post cycle therapy (pct)
you have 45 days left, stick it out
if the sides at 50mgs are too bad, drop it to 25mgs everyday

your libido is bad because you havent fully recovered

deca dick is the inability to get a hard on due to high levels of progesterone
you dont have that problem
nobody has a good libido during post cycle therapy (pct)

 

[itsstillme]

Thanks guys (and thanks 5x10) so this is to b expected even tho I'm 4 months post cycle? And wut is the next step if libido and erections don't return towards the end of the clomid pct?

 

[pickle bunny]

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[funky419]

damn.....lmao

 

[itsstillme]

Lol dude ur weird. Forreal ur shit isn't even bothering me ne more. I wish it was atleast something funny enuf to laugh at tho. That pic was as close as uv come. Keep trying tho man. If I ever get my dick back ill tell u one thing, I'll b in the sack with a girl at this hour not fuckin w people on a forum. C wuts pathetic is right now I'm going thru the worst time of my life, but atleast I know me at my worst isn't as pathetic as some dude chillin on a board to fuck w someones head. Lol keep it up man.