Couple questions on first cycle

[JadedWolf4]

Hi guys - I know this might get tiresome but I just want to make sure I have everything locked in before I start as its my first cycle and after researching a lot I got some mixed responses. Im 25, 176lbs and Im not sure exactly what to expect but I would love to gain 10lbs. I'm around 12%BF, and have been lifting for about 4 years. I wanted to do a Helladrol run and this is what I came up with based on research:

CYCLE
1-6: Helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/100
1-6: N2Guard
1-6: Fish Oil, Taurine
3-6: Forma Stanzol 3 in AM, 3 in PM

PCT
7-10: Clomid 50/25/25/25
7-10: Forma Stanzol 10/6/6/6
7-10: DAA 3gms/day
7-10: Forged PCT

A lot of the questions I had involved PCT, whether what I had was good enough. I've seen Unleashed, HCGenerate, Test Infusion.. etc. all recommended but I'm unsure of whether to add or take anything out. How does it look like this? Also, should I take dermacrine on cycle? I want the most out of my cycle because it's unlikely that I'll run another for a very long time due to schedule constraints. Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Why helladrol? Why not run test? It's much safer, healthier and produce far better gains... And you'll feel ALOT better.. Become a sex god lol.

Pct for any cycle should always be this at a minimum:
Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/20/20/20

For heavy cycles extend that to 6 weeks long.

All the other stuff you have in your proposed PCT is unnecessary.. Won't do shit. Clomid and nolva is the best possible pct you can get. Torem and nolva would also be equal to that. Hcgenerate, test boosters all that crap are a complete waste of money. The D-Aspartic Acid is slightly beneficial... But its nothing compared to the dual SERM therapy.

 

[JadedWolf4]

So just drop everything ekse and run clomid and nolva?

 

[hitme]

Yep and stop reading elite fitness, if that's where you got that pct from. I did their pct protocol and felt horrible. They bash their products on that forum

 

[PrinceDianabol]

So just drop everything ekse and run clomid and nolva?

Yep. Nothing, absolutely nothing beats dual SERM therapy. You could keep the DAA in there if you've already bought it, but its not gonna make much difference. Drop the rest of that shit though.

 

[JadedWolf4]

Thanks for the help guys ill go the dual serm route. One last q though. Hows dermacrine? Should I take that on cycle? I read a few thread on here that say nothing but really good things about it. And if I do take it should I drop forma stanzol?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Thanks for the help guys ill go the dual serm route. One last q though. Hows dermacrine? Should I take that on cycle? I read a few thread on here that say nothing but really good things about it. And if I do take it should I drop forma stanzol?

Nah. Your first cycle should be test only. See how you react to test, what sides you suffer and how best to treat and/or prevent them... If you have two compounds in there you won't know where the sides are coming from and that can make treating them difficult. Plus if you get something you consider bad enough to abort cycle you won't know what to run if you choose to do another..

Stick to test only this time round. 500mg weekly... Enanthate or cyp esters are perfect. Prohormones are pretty weak compared to real AAS anyways.