Couple Questions...

[Sammy737]

My 2nd Cycle plan looks like this:

Weeks 1 - 12 Test E 600 mg
Weeks 1 - 11 Deca 400 mg
Weeks 1 - 17 Nolva 20 mg/Day (or up to 50mg as needed)
Weeks 14 - 17 Clomid Day 1 300 mg, Day 2 - 14 100mg, Day 15 - 21 50mg

Questions:

1. Should I jump start my Cycle with Dbol ? If so should I start my Nolva at the same time ?
2. 300mg of Deca/wk or 400mg ?

 

[Smashed]

You can jump start with Dbol. I wouldn't run Nolva during cycle though but not sure with Deca. Typically you'd want an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) but with Deca, most AI's won't affect prolactin levels. This is where Prami comes in to play. I've also read about B6 being used as a prolactin prohibitor but I need to find that article.

Prami for prolactin (deca dick), .25ED and see how sides are, up to .5ED, taken at night typically.
Aromasin for Estrogen levels, 12.5mg EOD, or ED depending on sides.

 

[soldier74]

Instead of nolva, why don't u run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like a'dex or masin. Also i'd keep something on hand for progestin sides even though that is a low dose of deca. Quality dbol makes for a nice kickstart, imo.

 

[supersafado]

I will second their advice you need to get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I like aromasin because I start it day one and run it the whole time clear through post cycle therapy (pct). also look at caber or something for deca.

I am going to run a cycle just like this. I will make a recommendation.
Deca is best if used a minimum 12 weeks and test being 2 weeks longer.
I am also going to kick start with dbol but that is why I take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Lots of sides associated with dbol if you aren't careful. 4 weeks 30-40 mg you should be fine. Just take aromasin.

 

[tigre81]

Run the test at least 2 weeks longer than the deca. Good luck that looks like it will turn you into a gorilla with that dbol kickstart.

 

[juced_porkchop]

My 2nd Cycle plan looks like this:

Weeks 1 - 12 Test E 600 mg
Weeks 1 - 11 Deca 400 mg
Weeks 14 - 17 Nolva 20 mg/Day
Weeks 14 - 17 Clomid Day 1-2 300 mg, then 50mg ed till finished (wk17)

personally i would run test to 14 weeks and deca to 12

Questions:

1. Should I jump start my Cycle with Dbol ? If so should I start my Nolva at the same time ? you can use dbol at start that is fine, dont use nolva, start Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from day one.
2. 300mg of Deca/wk or 400mg ? i like 300mg ew but others say 400 or 500. if you havent used it befor see what 300mg ew can do.

dont use nolva att all during cycle, use it at post cycle therapy (pct). SERMS (nolva) will BLOCK estrogen at some places like the nipple, but it DOES NOT fix high estrogen (its a band-aid to a growing issue), an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like stane or letro is what is used to prevent gyno and keep estro levels normal/healthy. people only used SERM during cycles before we knew better or had AI's.

use nolva and clomid as pct even better. ill add in red above.

 

[juced_porkchop]

old school way was SERMS on cycle, but this is not good way to go about it. we know better


also i havent ever needed it, but its a good idea ot have prami or caber on hand for high prog from deca. at 300mg ew you prob wont need it and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should be enough. but i would keep it on hand still.