Critique my cutting cycle for the spring. Any ideas welcome!

[n0limits]

I will be placing an order after the holidays to get some gear to help with my summer shred. Right now I'm bulking pretty hard and I've gained a decent amount of mass in general. I'm currently running 500mg of Test E every week for 12 weeks. After this cycle is done I'm going to maintain my weight for 4 weeks and then get ready to cut by mid Feb. **I should also mention that I'm on TRT so no PCT is needed.**

My stats are: 5'7", 185 lbs, 15% bf. Week 6 of current cycle. I will probably be closer to 190lbs and 16%ish body fat by week 12. Who knows though. My goal by mid June is to be (around) 170 lbs, or 8% body fat, shredded.

This summer I'm thinking of running:

Weeks 1-12: 100mg Test E every week
Weeks 1-12: 200mg Mast E every week
Weeks 8-12: 80mg Anavar every day

I don't want to run tren any time soon, so I'm sticking with a more conservative cycle. My diet will be in check, obviously.

Look good? Any suggestions?

 

[sadpanda]

1-12 test e 250mg
1-4 tbol 60mg
5-12 tren a 350mg

why do you wanna use mast instead of tren?

 

[n0limits]

1. This will be my 2nd cycle.
2. I don't want to deal with potential side effects associated with it.
3. I like what I've read about mast and it is very mild as well, which is what I'm looking for.

I may up the test to 250mg or I will up the mast to 400mg. Maybe both depending.

 

[thades]

Really don't see the point of running 100mg of test e, that's about 71mg of actual test...literally what your body makes on it's own. I'm not trying to convince you to run a crazy high dose cycle, but this might be the other extreme. Mast really isn't a strong enough compound in its own, even at 400 mg, to do anything without some test. I'd say run the test at 400mg, minimum and same with the mast. That'd still be a very mild cycle, but you'd actually get some decent results. If money is an issue for the extra test and mast then drop the car, if not, run it.

 

[Yatz77]

I was under the impression that mast's true benefit comes to those running it who are already pretty low bf? From what I read in other posts it seems like others say it's kind of a waste of money if you are not under 10% bf to start. Anyone else chime in on this?

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

100 mg test is too low to use. It will not replace your suppressed natural test. If you go in to a cycle and supress your endogenous Test
than the Exogenous Test dosage should be high enough to give you some gains and worth going to a cycle.
Products should be choosen according to goal and need. With that cycle , you cannot cut up to 8% body fat. Probably you will
have a little lean gains

 

[banzi]

100 mg test is too low to use. It will not replace your suppressed natural test. If you go in to a cycle and supress your endogenous Test
than the Exogenous Test dosage should be high enough to give you some gains and worth going to a cycle.
Products should be choosen according to goal and need. With that cycle , you cannot cut up to 8% body fat. Probably you will
have a little lean gains

What has his dosage got to do with his ability to get to 8% BF?

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

What has his dosage got to do with his ability to get to 8% BF?

Has to do a lot in fact, for cutting up good without losing muscle , he needs a proper dosage which is high enough to support muscle mass and anabolism
I mean the dosage help body to endure , low calorie + cardio type of state.
100 mg can only be MAYBE hormone replacement dosage, not cycle dosage. There is a reason that all the products have a recommended dosage.
This shows the Optimal benefit / side effect ratio, so as soon as you are using steroids, you should choose a dosage which will bring good results.
In that case that would be 400-500 mg Test Enanthate or 300-400 mg Test Prop

 

[banzi]

Has to do a lot in fact, for cutting up good without losing muscle , he needs a proper dosage which is high enough to support muscle mass and anabolism
I mean the dosage help body to endure , low calorie + cardio type of state.
100 mg can only be MAYBE hormone replacement dosage, not cycle dosage. There is a reason that all the products have a recommended dosage.
This shows the Optimal benefit / side effect ratio, so as soon as you are using steroids, you should choose a dosage which will bring good results.
In that case that would be 400-500 mg Test Enanthate or 300-400 mg Test Prop

Thanks for that,
By June next year he can be 8% BF or a lot lower if he chooses regardless of what he takes.
You seemed to be saying it wasn't possible on a low dosage.

cheers.

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

Thanks for that,
By June next year he can be 8% BF or a lot lower if he chooses regardless of what he takes.
You seemed to be saying it wasn't possible on a low dosage.

cheers.

He can do it but it cannot be in time period as long as cycle 12 weeks, I am sorry but its almost impossible to lower your body fat from 16 % to 8 %
without steroids in 12 weeks. Thats my believe. Because as much as he pushes for fat loss , he will also loose muscle. As pounds, scale can change a lot but
that doesnt mean he changes his body fat % too much. I mean he can loose even 20 pounds but that doesnt mean all that 20 is from fat. Probably half of it or maybe even more will be muscle
if he will try to this natural. So body fat percentage will change 3-4% maximum which is still good result as natural. If any person will go natural , and try to cut up, its better to make long plans like 6 months ,
and set goals moderate. It will be easier to achieve.

 

[Rastas]

At such low doses the finished product is going to be very much diet dependent. Increase the dosage and the whole process will be less tedious. I'm with Dr.Phoenix re test dose. AT LEAST 500mg. You're already on TRT, bump it up and blast properly. If you want to run Masteron I wouldn't go below 600mg, but that's just from my personal experience with the compound. This was at a body fat percentage of around 15% too. I had a definite increase in libido, retained less fluid (I experimented with my AI dosage to see just how true these apparent effects on estrogen were with Masteron), appeared more vascular. I really enjoyed Masteron. Don't expect massive changes in your physique on it though, it's not a potent lean mass builder. The next time I use it will be combined with Trenbolone Acetate at a higher dose when I cut.

 

[BigRussT]

As long as your diet is solid for cutting your good to go. Definatly would run at least 500mg Test wk and maybe about 200mg of tren.. but diet is the KEY! along with workout routine.

 

[Black Beard]

Bump.dat.test.brah.

 

[n0limits]

100mg Test E is my TRT dose. As for Mast I was more interested in the fact that it helps to retain strength gains, keeps libido high, and to some extent aids with estrogen control (I get bad acne even on my TRT dose so I think it would be awesome to add long-term even). I am more interested in using diet to cut than drugs, otherwise I would run higher doses as that would obviously help speed up the process.

 

[n0limits]

It helps to see results when you're much leaner, but I'm more interested in the synergistic effects it has with Test. Keeping strength up, libido increase, help with estro, etc.

 

[n0limits]

I can't do it natty as I am on TRT lol... So technically it's within natural range, but yea.

I will highly consider upping the Test to 250mg, and mast to 400mg. (I'll buy enough so that I have the option to run higher doses if I choose to) but I am pretty detailed about my diet, and I think I have a good understanding of how my body works when it comes to nutrition.

This summers I went down to 10% bf from 20% bf and kept my strength and looked bigger than when I had all that fat. That was done with just 100mg of Test and it only took me 15 weeks (but with a really good diet and training regime). I'm not 100% sure that I can do something like that in 12 weeks, but it's a goal none the less!

 

[n0limits]

At least 500mg test? Wouldn't 250mg keep me from going catabolic? I really have no clue about this stuff, I just know that I've cut before with good results, but yeah, diet was on point.

As for Mast, did you run it when you cut? I will research more about mast and doses, as I haven't tried it yet myself.

And any say on anavar at the end of the cycle or beginning, or does it make a difference?

 

[riprockwell]

If you are looking to blast, you can keep your TRT dose. I personally like to keep my TRT dose of test because I'm dialed in good and my estrogen is controlled very well. I just think Mast is weak. It's always been for me. Maybe because I didn't have low enough bodyfat but I just don't see the big deal behind it. Personally I would run var for sure and kick start for 6 weeks. You can add the mast if you want at 400mg per week. Hell my last run was 100mg let week test (TRT dose) and 300mg Tren Ace for 10 weeks and it was awesome. Next run will be the same except I'm going to throw in Var.

 

[GilaMonstaXXX]

Eat clean. only eat your carbs with protein. dont combine carbs and fat in meals. Space out the meals.
1-12 Test E 300
1-12 mast E 350
1-6 tbol
7-12 anavar

If you want to enhance everything...add tren! even in low dose.
and orrrr add T3.

dont forget hcg nolva aromasin.

 

[Black Beard]

What does 100 mg get your test range into?