Critique My Diet/training
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Nicholas24
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Thanks, I added what you said to my diet.mister69 said:
Strega
The Hot Mess
Dirk, where in this thread did he state that he was or wanted to be a competitve body builder or even look like one?|!
He said that he wanted to gain 15-20lbs of lean muscle and he didnt state over what period of time!
One more thing, Im fairly certain that your male coworkers are glad you are the judge of which men look good and such in your office
He said that he wanted to gain 15-20lbs of lean muscle and he didnt state over what period of time!
One more thing, Im fairly certain that your male coworkers are glad you are the judge of which men look good and such in your office
Double3
Ride Till I Die
Looks alright on pro and carbs...How much fat? www.fitday.com good resource.Nicholas24 said:
Yes you can eat oats raw. I drink them every morning
Check out Iron Addicts top 5 routines. 3 days a week would be perfect for you. Do low intensity cardio 5 days a week (brisk walk) 45min or so
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DirkMoneyshot
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Strega said:
Okay did you crawl out of some rock or something- I'm a personal trainer. The people that come into my office want evaluations.
Next in line - Did he ever say he wanted to be a BB- Nope neither did I. Find where I said he wanted to be a competitive Bodybuilder, Please. The purpose was to show that "WEIGHT" means absolutely nothing. 15 - 20 lbs is a number. It is a quantity. Quantity means shit compared to quality. Again your thinking is ass backwards. And again TIME. Time is a number. You can not force quality. Can you force quantity. YES and you end up looking like a fat pig who loses function, athleticism, flexibility.
The guy weighs 165 lbs. We just went through a long thread on the problems with over eating. The guy does not need 5,000 kcals. He's probably never ate that much in his life so do you think he's going to handle that? No he's going to have digestion problems and he's going to store a lot of fat. His metabolism will also start to slow because of how much crap you just put in him.
99% of the time with smaller guys is they lack consistency over long periods of time with "adequate" food intake for their size. Its not because you have to force food down them.
Nicholas24
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DirkMoneyshot said:
Hey Dirk, look above and check what Mister69 added to my meals. Do you see any improvements that could be made on that?
Double 3, not sure how much fat. I'll get the numbers by the end of the day.
Strega
The Hot Mess
Dirk, you may not have stated it directly, but you obviously assumed that it was the direction that he was going. "Since you are very new to BB and nutrition I would suggest you purchase Chris Aceto Championship Bodybuilding or any of his books."
As far as you being a "personal trainer" it figures. I have yet to meet one in person that wasnt a pompous, arrogant, knowitall ass.
As far as you being a "personal trainer" it figures. I have yet to meet one in person that wasnt a pompous, arrogant, knowitall ass.
DirkMoneyshot
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Nicholas24 said:
Cut the cardio for now
9:00 am -
Meal 1- I'm out of eggs. So I had 7 oz chicken breast and 3/4 cup of oatmeal.
Increase your oatmeal to 1 cup and start using Egg Whites (about 12 w/ 2 yolks)
11:30 am
Meal 2 - 6 oz lean ground beef, 4 oz wheat pasta, and a salad
Cut the wheat pasta for now and take in 10 oz. of Baby Red, Yukon Gold, or Sweet Potato - The lean ground Beef needs to be 93 - 96% Fat Free
2:00 pm
Meal 3 - Chicken breats 7 oz and veggies (carrots, squash, celery, broccoli)
8 oz. Chicken Breast w/ Granny Smith Apple
3:30 pm - Daily work out
Meal 4 - wheat pasta 4 oz then post workout shake
50g Whey Isolate Shake w/ 8 Large Rice Cakes
7 pm
Veggies, 7 oz chicken breast 1/2 cup brown rice and 1 tbsp olive oil
Again about 8 oz. Chicken - 1/2 cup brown rice is fine but remove the 1 tbsp. Olive Oil
9:30 pm
I will have a protein shake when 9:30 hits
50g Whey Isolate Protein + 1 tbsp. Olive Oil
Now I don't like doing this because i have no pictures - no real feedback from you and really don't know you that well. So my advice is pretty broad right now. You will have to guage your progress. Again it is by how you look not the scale.
DirkMoneyshot
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Strega said:
So lets go with this quote first - What is he doing? Is he bodybuilding? Sounds like it to me. He is trying to build a better body. Doesn't sound like he's power lifting or just weight training so i'm not sure what other term you'd like to use. Did I say a competitive BB there?? Didn't think so but I did say "nutrition" and that is what the book is about. Teaching the fundamentals of nutrition.
As for being a popous, arrogant, know it all ass- hmm......sometimes but I do know that my client success speaks for itself.
Double3
Ride Till I Die
That looks like a good diet for him. Maybe more fat but I dunno what that comes up to right off.DirkMoneyshot said:
You don't think he should atleast do some low intensity cardio?
He seems to be in the same boat as myself when it comes to build and metabolism. I've since made it to 180 single digit bf and have worked with IA so I'm just suggesting some things that worked for me.
DirkMoneyshot
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Double3 said:
He can always add more fat into the diet as it goes along - Such as adding an extra tablespoon of olive oil in that last meal. That will boost his totals along with adding some EFA capsules (3 - 6g during the day). I would rather him start out a little lower and work his way into the right kcal range for him, then just throwing everything at him at once. He may find this is enough to start but might need to add some later down the line.
As for the cardio--Again without knowing him real well I don't think its needed at this point. Some like to say it boosts appetite but I think as long as your workouts are very intense and your not sitting around talking 1/2 the time your there it will be okay. If he starts to notice a little bit of fat gain he can add some intervals in there at 20 min (2 - 3x / week)....
Miss Muscle
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DirkMoneyshot said:
I completely agree with this. I would add a bit more fat though. Like 9 fish cap pills per day or a tablespoon Udo's oils.
I can see you are in good hands in this thread Nicholas.
Nicholas24
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You guys freakin kick ass! Thanks for all the help. I'll have a training routine posted in a few days if not sooner. I'll also post some pictures so you can see what kind of build I am. I uploaded a pic to my profile but it's not showing up for some reason. I was at 174 in the profile pic. Thanks for your input to double. I'll stick with what Dirk said, and add some fats later down the road. I need to read, read, and read some more so I can understand everything more clearly.
Oh... And what's with all these dipshits on here doing gear without even having a clue what they are doing? I've read some rediculous posts from users who are clearly making some bad decisions.
I would NEVER consider it without taking my body to it's max potential naturally and on top of that having perfectly clear knowledge on what it does to YOU as a person. I can't believe some of the stuff I have read. Guys are sticking themselves and they don't even know what the hell they are sticking themselves with.
Anyhow, not to change the subject. I'll be working on getting that diet dialed in this week! You guys rock! Thanks again
Jason Nicholas
Oh... And what's with all these dipshits on here doing gear without even having a clue what they are doing? I've read some rediculous posts from users who are clearly making some bad decisions.
I would NEVER consider it without taking my body to it's max potential naturally and on top of that having perfectly clear knowledge on what it does to YOU as a person. I can't believe some of the stuff I have read. Guys are sticking themselves and they don't even know what the hell they are sticking themselves with.
Anyhow, not to change the subject. I'll be working on getting that diet dialed in this week! You guys rock! Thanks again
Jason Nicholas
Nicholas24
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Oh yeah... As far as egg whites. Anyone ever use the eag beaters? The ones that are just egg whites? Saw them at the grocery store, but I hesitated on picking them up.
