Critique my first cycle please?

[Gymguy123]

Hi, I'm a long time reader but a first time poster. I am looking to run my first cycle of Test E with a Dbol kickstarter.

Please critique this cycle for me and any suggestions will be greatly appreciated!

Stats:
Age: 24
Height: 6'1
Weight 185 pounds
Body fat: 8%

Nutrition:
Macros will be run at about 250g protein / 280g carb / 80g fat / 2840 calories - 600 calorie surplus

Cycle
Week 1-4 - 20mg Dbol
Week 1-12 - Test E (Injecting twice per week on monday and thursday at 250mg per injection)
HCG for 10 days leading upto PCT
PCT - Clomid at 50mg per day for four weeks

Thanks

 

[SolomonGrundy]

if you add regular use of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) meds id say you're good. and read the PCT stickys

 

[halfwit]

You're probably going to need to bump up that dbol dose, 20mgs is a bit on the light side. I also don't see mention of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). This is going to be very likely needed given the dbol and test as they both aromatize into estrogen. Otherwise looks good to me.

Edit: Damn bhrees, you're on a mission today! Beat me by like 45 seconds!

 

[SirSwole]

Agreed with the other guys; add an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (like adex) and increase the dbol to 30mg. You're not really supposed to run 2 compounds first cycle, but if you're going to then you wana be safe about it so get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Also at your height you could gain some more weight before starting the cycle IMO. Also your cals seem a bit low, unless you're just going for straight lean mass, but even still I think it a tad on the low side. My .02

 

[Orbs]

Not to hijack, but would a clomid and nolva combo be better for PCT than just clomid alone?

 

[Gymguy123]

Thanks for your input guys!

I'll up the Dbol dosage to 30mg per day for the first four weeks.

I will also get Aromasin for an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), I've been researching it but been a little confused as different people are saying different doses and how often to take it... Should I just take 25mg every other day throughout the cycle and stop when HCG starts or until PCT finishes?

Also, should I bump my calorie surplus upto 1000 calories? I just want to add size on this cycle, not too worried about a bit of fat gain.

 

[Gymguy123]

Not to hijack, but would a clomid and nolva combo be better for post cycle therapy (pct) than just clomid alone?

I saw that combo in the post cycle therapy (pct) sticky, don't know how much more beneficial it would be though. Maybe some other experienced guys on here know...

 

[halfwit]

Thanks for your input guys!

I'll up the Dbol dosage to 30mg per day for the first four weeks.

I will also get Aromasin for an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), I've been researching it but been a little confused as different people are saying different doses and how often to take it... Should I just take 25mg every other day throughout the cycle and stop when HCG starts or until post cycle therapy (pct) finishes?

Also, should I bump my calorie surplus upto 1000 calories? I just want to add size on this cycle, not too worried about a bit of fat gain.

Aromasin has a half-life of 27 hours, so I would take it ED. I would recommend starting out at 12.5mg ED and see how it goes from there. If those are a quality 1000 kcals, you'll gain weight pretty fast. It's pretty individualistic on how we metabolize the food we eat into mass, so you'll probably have to experiment with this a bit and find your sweet spot.

 

[Gymguy123]

Aromasin has a half-life of 27 hours, so I would take it ED. I would recommend starting out at 12.5mg ED and see how it goes from there. If those are a quality 1000 kcals, you'll gain weight pretty fast. It's pretty individualistic on how we metabolize the food we eat into mass, so you'll probably have to experiment with this a bit and find your sweet spot.

Okay thanks, so I'll take the Aromasin until after post cycle therapy (pct) finishes or?... And up the dose from 12.5mg from when I start to see signs of gyno?

All my calories are good - all complex carbs (except from postworkout), fats are mostly EFA's and proteins are from meat, eggs, protein shake...

I'l start off at 1000 and experiment like you said

 

[SamSport]

nice, keep us updated

 

[halfwit]

Okay thanks, so I'll take the Aromasin until after post cycle therapy (pct) finishes or?... And up the dose from 12.5mg from when I start to see signs of gyno?

All my calories are good - all complex carbs (except from postworkout), fats are mostly EFA's and proteins are from meat, eggs, protein shake...

I'l start off at 1000 and experiment like you said

Take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) up until you start post cycle therapy (pct), then let the SERMS work their magic. Yes, up the dose if you start to get itchy nipples/bloating in the face or feet/excessive acne/et cetera.

 

[Gymguy123]

Take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) up until you start post cycle therapy (pct), then let the SERMS work their magic. Yes, up the dose if you start to get itchy nipples/bloating in the face or feet/excessive acne/et cetera.

Thanks for clearing that up for me

Repped!