Joeybenz said:
so is it like clomid, nolv, and hcg
You're not even close.
Frst off, no natural compound is as powerful as a drug. That doesn't mean it isn't effective (and it's usually safer) but it isn't as much of a "sure thing" i.e Echinachea isn't as reliable as an anti-biotic.
Secondly, Clomid and Nolvadex are nothing like Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). HCG increases Luetinizing hormone. You probably got confused because all of these compounds are use post cycle. You need to do more homework.
And lastly, Clomid and Nolvadex (in my opinion) are sucky anti-e's because they ARE estrogens and the process by which they work is not a sure thing.It can backfire and simply wind up adding more estrogen -- which is why some guys turn into little bitches on the rag when they use it.
Arimidex and Proviron work much better because Arimidex prevents estrogen from forming in the first place. Incidentally, this is what Chrysin does, just not to the same extent of course.
Proviron is also preferable to Clomid or Nolvadex because it removes estrogen from the body. There's a natural substance called Calcium D Glucerate which does the same thing -- again, to a lesser extent, but it works without supression or side effects. Chrysin and Calcium D Glucerate are both contained in "POST-CYCLE". For more info, go here:
www.proteinfactory.com