Hey guys Im 19 weighing about 170 I wanted to start a cycle with either dbol or test e I dont want to mix because since I am young I want to just take one I dont want to mess around with my testosterone by taking all these things at once. If I were to take dbol for a month alone with a caloric intake of 3000 calories a day 30mg of dbol per day . If I take test enanthate I know their is a chance it could mess with my hpta levels and was curious if dbol would have a chance of doing that also?
Dbol vs Test Enanthate help
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CurrentlyAverage
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Test E and Dbol aren't "interchangeable" drugs, you can't just swap them out with each other. An oral only cycle is a terrible idea, and will probably do permanent damage. Test is common for a first cycle and it's usually run for 10 - 12 weeks with all the other components of a cycle (AI, HcG, nolva/clomid for pct).
That being said, the most common reply you're going to get here is "you're too young." You have a lot of progress you can make as a natural providing you're taller than 5'7 at that weight or have a higher bodyfat.
That being said, the most common reply you're going to get here is "you're too young." You have a lot of progress you can make as a natural providing you're taller than 5'7 at that weight or have a higher bodyfat.
RamboTheDog
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As a first cycle i would go with test propionate
6-8 weeks depending on ur gains
150mg EOD
thats an average of 525mg/week of test which is a good amount
I disagree with not taking steroids that young, if you know what u r doing, aware of the consequences and have a goal like competing or even just having a fucking GREAT physique because its your life aspiration then i say go for it bro, before its too late and u have so many responsabilities like a real job, family to take care of and u have no money or time to spend working out a lot and taking steroids..
BUT from what you asked i believe you need to do more research before starting, good luck bro
CurrentlyAverage
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I'm on the fence about it before 24 if you've put in the time to research and know what you're doing, but then again that's from someone that's waiting as well so take from it what you will. The more experienced posters here seem to very much advocate for waiting until you're 24/25 on the grounds of safety, and who can blame them for that.
Dbol cycles can result in great gains, but at the cost of potentially damaging your liver and other harmful effects (such as drops in libido). No one would recommend that cycle without a test base, and you'd lose any of the gains you made it on afterwards anyways.
Dbol cycles can result in great gains, but at the cost of potentially damaging your liver and other harmful effects (such as drops in libido). No one would recommend that cycle without a test base, and you'd lose any of the gains you made it on afterwards anyways.
RamboTheDog
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Dude, wtf either one of them, dbol or test e will fuck up ur natural production, there isnt much difference trust me.. If you so worried about ur natty production then maybe u shouldnt take it...
RamboTheDog
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Dude, EITHER will shut you down HARD and you will NEED PCT after.. And why are you still asking??? You shouldnt do oral only cycles so you shouldnt even be comparing dbol with test lol, maybe u could use both together but not dbol alone.
CurrentlyAverage
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They're illicit substances that can both potentially permanently damage you. This is why it's vital to do your research before you start a cycle. Get bloods done, look up proper dosing and injecting protocols, sterilize everything, all that fun stuff. I'm going to say don't do an oral (Dbol) only cycle again, in the third attempt to answer your question. Does that help?
Edit: This guy ^
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RamboTheDog
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I think maybe we have been trolled bro, this guy cant be serious hahaha we both have said the same thing like twice and he is still asking
CurrentlyAverage
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I'm thinking you could be right, well there go my helpful points for today. Ah well, we tried 
halfwit
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Wait till puberty is over man. Both of these compounds will cause your natural testosterone to shut off and will increase your estradiol, which closes your growth plates among other developing systems in your body.
Is there an exception?
Sure. But before you think you're one of them, I want you to take a look at this fine young man:
I also invite you to search through the TRT forums for threads from guys your age that are now hypogonadal and doctors won't help them. They've tried restarts and multiple PCT's; yet no longer make natural testosterone. I'd definitely think hard on whether or not the risk is worth the reward. If you still decide you want to pursue this, I strongly advise you READ AS MUCH AS YOU CAN BEFORE you stick that needle in your body.
Best of luck.
My .02c
Is there an exception?
Sure. But before you think you're one of them, I want you to take a look at this fine young man:
I also invite you to search through the TRT forums for threads from guys your age that are now hypogonadal and doctors won't help them. They've tried restarts and multiple PCT's; yet no longer make natural testosterone. I'd definitely think hard on whether or not the risk is worth the reward. If you still decide you want to pursue this, I strongly advise you READ AS MUCH AS YOU CAN BEFORE you stick that needle in your body.
Best of luck.
My .02c
juced_porkchop
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dbol ad well as any other aas will shut down and mess with hpta....
your not finished development till about age 25 in males and using ANY steroids before this time of development can halt or mess up your development for life. wait till age 24-26 and keep researching, you probably know 3% of what you need to know about this stuff to do it safely, take your time : )
Good luck..
ps, never do a cycle without test in it, you will know why once you have done more research
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