Deca timing..in regards to trt restart?

[Steve78]

My doc wants me to come off everything and do a LH stimulation test with 4 weeks of clomid...
I’m on trt so he said start clomid after 2 weeks of stopping the test.

Only issue is I was planning on a deca c***se and I did one shot last week (250 mg) only once.

I know it’s dumb but I’m not sure if I should continue test for how long, maybe another week then wait 2 weeks and start clomid?

Any insight to this?

I read one study that 100 mg dose suppressed natural test for one month

 

[FRITZBLITZZ]

Well The Deca has a 14 day half life meaning 250mg a week ago will be in your system at half strength in a week so I would continue Test for next week then wait 2 weeks for clomid.
On a diff note I know ppl that were put on clomid therapy instead of TRT and it is a night and day worse diff. And if I were you I would want to keep my TRT even if you don't need it. You can always do a 4 or 6 week run of clomid and see if you can get natty T back cuz clomid is cheap and easy to get. I don't need TRT I have a 720ng/dl but I had BW taken after a cycle when all my hormones were in the dumps just so I could get free Test that I legaly can take anywhere even if there is deca mixed in with the Test if you get my drift

 

[scorob777]

Here's what a single shot of 250 mg deca looks like. I used 14 day half life.

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Your natural production, assuming you make 10mg test per day (if you were off TRT and "normal"), is about 14 on this chart. You can see that single shot takes you up to about 10-1/2, so you are almost 100% suppressed that first week, then it starts to bleed off. In four weeks it's down to 3, so about 21% still suppressed. In eight weeks down to 0.8 so about 5% suppressed.

Not sure that answers your question on how long to wait, but hopefully gives some insight into how long the deca sticks around.

 

[Steve78]

It helps, my doc said since I was never above TT of 388 in my life, a restart was very far fetched. He said just keep on trt and if i wanted some natural T and my balls working again to just add hcg to the mix

 

[scorob777]

That's a way better option than coming off and trying a clomid mono therapy.

 

[Steve78]

Thanks tank!
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Let me ask you this, i think there is little hope to achieving natural healthy TT levels again, so is trt plus hcg healthier than going on with my life with a TT around 250-300?
I just want healthiest option at this point since I’ll be 40 soon and have 4 amazing little kids.

Also, do you think trt plus hcg is healthier than just trt alone?

Thanks again!

 

[scorob777]

Thanks tank!
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Let me ask you this, i think there is little hope to achieving natural healthy TT levels again, so is trt plus hcg healthier than going on with my life with a TT around 250-300?
I just want healthiest option at this point since I***8217;ll be 40 soon and have 4 amazing little kids.

Also, do you think trt plus hcg is healthier than just trt alone?

Thanks again!

To me the main thing is do you want more kids, I'm assuming at 40 with 4 the answer is no.

So that makes it a pretty simple choice - first off TRT vs. living at 250-300 TT is much healthier. Second off TRT + HCG is in my opinion much better than TRT alone.

Once you decide to go with TRT (with or without HCG) you are down to managing two variables - total test levels and E2. Might take a while and an inquisitive nature to experiment up and down the scale to land on a good test dosage, then see if you need any AI and play with that to get E2 where you like it.

 

[Steve78]

Very helpful!
My TT is 450-500 but my free T is 133 (scale 31-150)... should I keep dose the same cause my free t is upper normal?

 

[scorob777]

Only you can decide that. Higher doses make a lot of guys feel better, especially on a site like this with body building as the focus. But you can go on other sites specific to TRT and see lots of guys that titrate down to where they don't have any sides or need AI, or whatever other criteria they are going by.