I was running out of Androgel, so I went to refill it. They pharmacy told me that my insurance company wanted me to have the doctor resubmit an approval form. That takes a few weeks, and mean while I ran out of the Gel. Was going to wait, but someone on another forum suggested that I ask my doctor for some test cyp so that I didn't have to go a few weeks with no testosterone. So I did, and the doctor have me a vial of it. He prescribed me to take 200mg once a week, but a very knowledgable guy on this same web site suggested that I start out at 100mg. So this is what I did last Friday. So far I do not feel anything. It's been about 4 days, so shouldn't I? Also this same guy says that he can usually feel something a few hours after injecting. I did not. So I am asking you guys how long it should take before I should start feeling something. I know there are a lot of knowledgeable guys here. Thanks.
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snowpatrol123
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Other than the fact that gels are generally shitty compared to injectables, if your TRT is set up fairly well (test levels in normal range) and you pinned 100mg cyp; it will -keep- your test levels in normal range...nothing spectacular is going to happen, I don't know what you were expecting
snowpatrol123
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Why are you taking clomid with androgel? I'm boggled by that one...the arimidex makes sense but may be slightly on the high side...
With that low a test dose I would probably guess .25mg 2x/wk (e3.5d) would be about right...though I doubt .25mg EOD will kill you or completely tank e2 levels either.
Cialis won't help with libido itself but if you're experiencing erectile issues it could help...though I would personally be trying to chase down the culprit since >1k test levels obviously aren't causing it.
A blood test would be a fantastic idea / way to confirm your estrogen levels which to me are the next suspect once low T has been ruled out.
Would your doctor be on board with prescribing exemestane (aromasin) instead of arimidex?
With that low a test dose I would probably guess .25mg 2x/wk (e3.5d) would be about right...though I doubt .25mg EOD will kill you or completely tank e2 levels either.
Cialis won't help with libido itself but if you're experiencing erectile issues it could help...though I would personally be trying to chase down the culprit since >1k test levels obviously aren't causing it.
A blood test would be a fantastic idea / way to confirm your estrogen levels which to me are the next suspect once low T has been ruled out.
Would your doctor be on board with prescribing exemestane (aromasin) instead of arimidex?
Here's the thing snow. I can get an erection, but I have to help myself lately, well for the last 4 months. It does get hard. It just feels like it's not sensitive enough. I want to be able to get aroused and get hard without doing anything. I could do this just 4 months ago.
BTW, thanks for the arimidex dose suggestion. I think I have always overdone it with this, even while on androgel. Maybe you are right, in that my E2 might be too low. I have to confess, one guy on another forum says, that if your penis doesn't hang, or it turtles, chances are your E2 is too high, and this was the case, so saturday I took .5mg, and sunday I took .25mg, and yesterday I took another .25mg of adex. Also, he says that your morning wood is a good sign of where your E2 is. I haven't had morning wood in weeks. Maybe I have been doing too much arimidex. I didn't take anything today and am going to hold of for maybe another day or two. Then I will do as you suggest.
And my doctor is easy, 48 yo guy who is on TRT himself. He doesn't object to anything. Why, is aromasin better?
Also, should I pin once a week, or two times a week? Thanks.
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The reason he told me to take clomid was to keep the boys working.
snowpatrol123
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Yes. Definitely. DROP the adex for a week and see if things improve (libido, joints etc)
If you can get aromasin, great - I would start with 5mg ED
If not, honestly...adex @ 0.25mg e3.5d may be too much based on what you're saying...maybe 0.125mg twice a week to start
Alpin
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Sorry you got bad medical advice. No one takes clomid while on exogenous Testosterone. Clomid stimulates the bodys endogenous Testosterone levels and its geared toward working without exogenous Testosterone in ones system. HCG is what you should be on. Oh well to each their own.
Megatron28
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Back to the original question, you are not going to feel the effects of an injection one hour afterwards or 4 days afterward. Especially when you already had normal TT levels from the andeogel. In fact, your androgel is going to wear off pretty quickly while it is going to take a good 6 weeks for the test cyp to build up in your body. You are going to experience a temporary drop in your TT if you quit androgel cold turkey and replace it with injections. It would probably be better to taper off the androgel. I would discuss that with your doctor.
And as others have said, you need to get squared away on your E2 and HCG/Clomid usage. I think you really need to reassess whether or not your doc is giving you good medical care.
And as others have said, you need to get squared away on your E2 and HCG/Clomid usage. I think you really need to reassess whether or not your doc is giving you good medical care.
Megatron28
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Why?
Megatron28
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How would it do that? Do you understand how clomid affects the HPTA? Have you asked him for a study showing the combination of clomid and testosterone does this? I am asking because this is counter to common wisdom and research studies about how clomid works on the HPTA.
It would be helpful if you could share your TRT protocol with us. Dosages and frequencies of the medications you are on. And do you have blood work results that you can share? I would really like to see your TT, E2, LH and FSH while on TRT (test and clomid). The proof in the pudding will be your LH and FSH.
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I will ask about HCG.
Ok, I crashed my E2 then. I'll wait until next Monday, and then do .125mg E3.5D then. Thanks snow.
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