Did my first shot of Test Cyp

[Alpin]

Who are we replying to here?
JNole or Ezed413 ?

 

[Alpin]

I will ask about HCG.

You do that. Come back and tell us his response.

 

[ezed413]

Back to the original question, you are not going to feel the effects of an injection one hour afterwards or 4 days afterward. Especially when you already had normal TT levels from the andeogel. In fact, your androgel is going to wear off pretty quickly while it is going to take a good 6 weeks for the test cyp to build up in your body. You are going to experience a temporary drop in your TT if you quit androgel cold turkey and replace it with injections. It would probably be better to taper off the androgel. I would discuss that with your doctor.

And as others have said, you need to get squared away on your E2 and HCG/Clomid usage. I think you really need to reassess whether or not your doc is giving you good medical care.

Meg, I just found out that my androgel script was approved again. I was able to get my TT up above 1000 ng/dl with 4 pumps of 1.62 a day. One thing I like about the androgel is, my boys didn't shut down. I have only done 1 injection so far, do you think I should just start the androgel again?? I can get it today. I don't want to crash. Also, I have been on TRT for about 8 months now, and I think that I have always done more arimidex than what is needed. My doctor had me doing .5mg EOD when I first started, but from what Snow said, this seems like way too much. No wonder I haven't really felt my libido go up!

 

[Megatron28]

Meg, I just found out that my androgel script was approved again. I was able to get my TT up above 1000 ng/dl with 4 pumps of 1.62 a day. One thing I like about the androgel is, my boys didn't shut down. I have only done 1 injection so far, do you think I should just start the androgel again?? I can get it today. I don't want to crash. Also, I have been on TRT for about 8 months now, and I think that I have always done more arimidex than what is needed. My doctor had me doing .5mg EOD when I first started, but from what Snow said, this seems like way too much. No wonder I haven't really felt my libido go up!

If you want to switch to injections I stand by what I said about tapering off the androgel while the test cyp kicks in.

Gel and injections will shut down your testicles both the same. They shut down because your pituitary is no longer sending them and LH signal. That is why guys often use HCG when on TRT.

Haven't you checked your E2 over the last 8 months?

 

[ezed413]

If you want to switch to injections I stand by what I said about tapering off the androgel while the test cyp kicks in.

Gel and injections will shut down your testicles both the same. They shut down because your pituitary is no longer sending them and LH signal. That is why guys often use HCG when on TRT.


Haven't you checked your E2 over the last 8 months?

Yes, maybe 4/5 months ago. It was 15. But I had been doing clomid 2 times a week. An administrator on the Hypogonadism forum says that you can't get an accurate read of E2 while taking clomid. So I don't know how accurate that reading was.

 

[Megatron28]

Yes, maybe 4/5 months ago. It was 15. But I had been doing clomid 2 times a week. An administrator on the Hypogonadism forum says that you can't get an accurate read of E2 while taking clomid. So I don't know how accurate that reading was.

I have never heard that about not being able to get an accurate E2 measure while on Clomid. How would that affect the lab test?

Based on the 15 though, your E2 was too low.

 

[ezed413]

I have never heard that about not being able to get an accurate E2 measure while on Clomid. How would that affect the lab test?

Based on the 15 though, your E2 was too low.

Could this cause erection problems?

 

[Megatron28]

Could this cause erection problems?

Low estradiol? Absolutely. High estradiol can cause erection problems as well. As can things like blood pressure and so on. ED issues can be pretty complicated. But first course of action for a TRT patient would be to get estradiol in the sweet spot.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Some side effects of Low Estrogen in Men
Poor sex drive
Fatigue
Lethargy
Skin quality diminishes
Depression
Poor sense of wellbeing & poor quality of life
Erectile dysfunction

Some of the High Estrogen Side Effects
The side effects of high Estrogen are not limited to only Gynecomastia. There is a host of other side effects that a person should be aware of and so this is why an AI should be run from the beginning of a cycle until the startup of PCT.
Gynecomastia
Anxiety & panic attacks
Depression
Erectile dysfunction
Water retention
High blood pressure
Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
Respiratory related concerns
Irritability
Low libido
Insomnia
Prostate related issues
Bitchiness and mood swings

 

[ezed413]

Low estradiol? Absolutely. High estradiol can cause erection problems as well. As can things like blood pressure and so on. ED issues can be pretty complicated. But first course of action for a TRT patient would be to get estradiol in the sweet spot.

My blood pressure is spot on, I have good blood flow down there because I had this checked. It must be estradiol. I know when I am on, Viagra works great! This has been extremely hard to dial in.

One other thing Meg, since you seem to be up on TRT. My baseline TT before TRT was 400. I am 59. Is this that bad, in other words, do I really need to be on it? The one thing that I have noticed after being on TRT for 8 months is, I definitely see better muscle definition from exercising. I used to work out like crazy and never see good results.

 

[ezed413]

Some side effects of Low Estrogen in Men
Poor sex drive
Fatigue
Lethargy
Skin quality diminishes
Depression
Poor sense of wellbeing & poor quality of life
Erectile dysfunction

Some of the High Estrogen Side Effects
The side effects of high Estrogen are not limited to only Gynecomastia. There is a host of other side effects that a person should be aware of and so this is why an AI should be run from the beginning of a cycle until the startup of PCT.
Gynecomastia
Anxiety & panic attacks
Depression
Erectile dysfunction
Water retention
High blood pressure
Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
Respiratory related concerns
Irritability
Low libido
Insomnia
Prostate related issues
Bitchiness and mood swings

I have 6 of the 7 side effects from low E2.

I have to be honest, I think my E2 has been low for a while now. Erections were working a lot better just 4 months ago. I guess I was thinking I had high E2 symptoms.

 

[ezed413]

Low estradiol? Absolutely. High estradiol can cause erection problems as well. As can things like blood pressure and so on. ED issues can be pretty complicated. But first course of action for a TRT patient would be to get estradiol in the sweet spot.

I wonder how long it will take for my E2 to rise to the sweet spot!

 

[ezed413]

Back to the original question, you are not going to feel the effects of an injection one hour afterwards or 4 days afterward. Especially when you already had normal TT levels from the andeogel. In fact, your androgel is going to wear off pretty quickly while it is going to take a good 6 weeks for the test cyp to build up in your body. You are going to experience a temporary drop in your TT if you quit androgel cold turkey and replace it with injections. It would probably be better to taper off the androgel. I would discuss that with your doctor.

And as others have said, you need to get squared away on your E2 and HCG/Clomid usage. I think you really need to reassess whether or not your doc is giving you good medical care.

I don't know why a guy on another forum told me to take test c in the mean time while waiting for my androgel script re-approval then if it would take 6 weeks to build up. I spent $110 for a vial of test c.

I really don't see any benefits to test c over gel. Gel got me up to over 1000. I think I am going back on the gels, and just cool it with the arimidex. I just called my androgel script in and it will be ready by 9pm. I am applying it tonight. I kinda feel like I am crashing from the low T. Its been about a week without it. I was thinking that the 100mg injection I did last friday would bring my levels back up to where they were.

How long does the test c last in a vial?