Didn't get any feedback in the PH forum, so I'll ask here.

[Havasu]

I didn't get any feeback in the PH forum, so I figured I'd ask here. I'm looking for feeback on a Pro-Hormone cycle I'm preparing.


I'm looking at running an 8 week cycle using Epi-1 test and Mass drops by Advanced Muscle Sciences. You get a free bottle of their AI/Free test Booster Arom-X RDE Chrome along with it, so I was planning on using that as my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle. For post cycle therapy (pct) I was planning on using RUI's Liquid Clomi, Liquid Torem, and Liquid Stane. So the cycle would look like:

Cycle

Week 1-8:
AMS Epi-1 test - 4x ED
AMS Mass Drops - 2x ED
AMS Arom-X Chrome RDe - 2x ED (I may not start this until week 2.

post cycle therapy (pct)

Week 1-4:
RUI Liquid Clomi - 35mg ED
RUI Liquid Torem - 60mg ED (Torem is 60mg per dose, but I am unsure if you need a full dose everyday ??)
RUI Liquid Stane - 25mg ED


I know the AMS products aren't AAS, but I want to run a full and real post cycle therapy (pct) after the fact. I don't see any harm in and, and want to make sure everything is back to the right levels afterwards.

As far as the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) since these are not AAS will the Arom-X be enough? Should I run Stane instead along with the cycle, and have Raloxifene on hand during just in case? Or, since these aren't AAS an over the counter Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as Arom-X or Lecheek AD-3 post cycle therapy (pct) should suffice? Thanks!

 

[juced_porkchop]

***Moved to AAS section***

 

[juced_porkchop]

I didn't get any feeback in the PH forum, so I figured I'd ask here. I'm looking for feeback on a Pro-Hormone cycle I'm preparing.


I'm looking at running an 8 week cycle using Epi-1 test and Mass drops by Advanced Muscle Sciences. You get a free bottle of their AI/Free test Booster Arom-X RDE Chrome along with it, so I was planning on using that as my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle. For PCT I was planning on using RUI's Liquid Clomi, Liquid Torem, and Liquid Stane. So the cycle would look like:

Cycle

Week 1-8:
AMS Epi-1 test - 4x ED
AMS Mass Drops - 2x ED
AMS Arom-X Chrome RDe - 2x ED (I may not start this until week 2.

PCT

Week 1-4:
RUI Liquid Clomi - 35mg ED
RUI Liquid Torem - 60mg ED (Torem is 60mg per dose, but I am unsure if you need a full dose everyday ??)
RUI Liquid Stane - 25mg ED


I know the AMS products aren't AAS, but I want to run a full and real PCT after the fact. I don't see any harm in and, and want to make sure everything is back to the right levels afterwards.

As far as the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) since these are not AAS will the Arom-X be enough? Should I run Stane instead along with the cycle, and have Raloxifene on hand during just in case? Or, since these aren't AAS an over the counter Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as Arom-X or Lecheek AD-3 PCT should suffice? Thanks!

you need to do a lot of research, then you will understrand in most cases pro-h are much more liver toxic than known legit steroids.
also oral only cycles are not a good idea. and STANE is an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to be used DURING cycle, not a pct.


look at these:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/598646-oral-cycles.html

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...-aromatize-inhibitors-gyno-pct-must-read.html

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/111479-massive-newbie-info.html

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/153723-300mg-vs-600mg-testosterone.html


PCT with torem or tamox and clomid from RUI is a really good idea, but you need to work on your cycle and knowledge .

good luck

 

[CptFKNplanet]

Aside from what Juiced said... AMS products are complete shit. I hope you didn't already buy them. They are not AAS, PH, or DS. They are test boosters.

 

[Havasu]

you need to do a lot of research, then you will understrand in most cases pro-h are much more liver toxic than known legit steroids.
also oral only cycles are not a good idea. and STANE is an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to be used DURING cycle, not a pct.


look at these:
steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/598646-oral-cycles.html

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/629345-how-serm-s-aromatize-inhibitors-gyno-pct-must-read.html

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/111479-massive-newbie-info.html

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/153723-300mg-vs-600mg-testosterone.html


PCT with torem or tamox and clomid from RUI is a really good idea, but you need to work on your cycle and knowledge .

good luck

Juiced Porkchop,

I appreciate any and all feedback. My knowledge is moderate when it comes to true cycles, with over the counter products I feel somewhat knowledgeable, however with AMS I'm unfamiliar with the products which is one of the big reasons for wanting input, but also wanted feedback on the cycle in a whole. I've taken a look at the oral only cycles, and many of the sticky's and they have been very informative.

Here is a question I have for you then. What would you recommend for someone who does not want to get involved with injecting. I did a few real cycles a long time ago, 1999'ish. They went fairly well, but honestly it really is a pain in the ass, no pun intended. So, if I wanted to stick with orals, whether it be over the counter or not, what would be your recommendations. I would be very interested in your opinion thanks.

 

[Havasu]

Aside from what Juiced said... AMS products are complete shit. I hope you didn't already buy them. They are not AAS, PH, or DS. They are test boosters.

CptFKNplanet,

So I have a few questions. I am unfamiliar with AMS except for the research I have done, I have never used their products. The reviews I have seen have all been positive, but that's subjective. What are you basing your opinions on as far as AMS being shit.

You say they are testosterone boosters, not PH's, ok...so if my test is boosted would that not have some positive benefit. If that's the case I'd also like to know if I should use any type of Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and would a PCT even be necessary with a product such as the one's I've listed.

Getting away from AMS what Pro-Hormones on the market would you recommend other than injectables, whether it be over the counter or not. As I said in my posted to Juiced Porkchop, I really don't want to inject, but still looking for alternatives, for products that will have some sort of Anabolic/Androgenic effect.

One piece I left out is I was going to use Cycle Assist as well for liver support.

Again thanks for all the input.