Dnp?
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Danny Love
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If you use DNP alone, for sure it will be catabolic for sure.
This stuff increases your body heat by a lot so in your metabolism is accelerated like crazy So do the math, increased metabolism with same amount of food, you will lose muscle for sure.
I would use some type of gear for sure.
2 questions :
I remember reading that your metabolism can be increased by as much as 50%, can anyone confirm this for me?
For the people who did it in the past, what's the increase in bodyheat did you guys get ?
This stuff increases your body heat by a lot so in your metabolism is accelerated like crazy So do the math, increased metabolism with same amount of food, you will lose muscle for sure.
I would use some type of gear for sure.
2 questions :
I remember reading that your metabolism can be increased by as much as 50%, can anyone confirm this for me?
For the people who did it in the past, what's the increase in bodyheat did you guys get ?
ranger1082
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WannaImpress said:
I just got off running DNP 400md ed with 100mg prop/eod and 75 mg of ephedrine hcl to keep up some energy and lost about 11lbs and none of it was muscle...but damn for some reason i was sweating more this time on the 400mg then i was my last few cycles at 600mg..guess its bc i have so much of it built up in my system
Mr.T
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Danny Love said:
Even though you feel extremely hot, and are sweating your a$$ off,
if you take your temp, it only reads about 1 degree above normal.
Here is something that was posted on another board by HERETIC, and I tend to agree with it.
DNP does not eat up muscle. It is not T-3. You do not need to run juice with it to prevent muscle loss, that would be a waste of juice. I have run DNP both on and off cycle, and there's really no difference. While on cycle, you won't make gains while on DNP, your body is in a caloric deficit and under a huge amount of metabolic stress. However, that doesn't mean it's using protein for energy, by it's very method of action it does not to that. I don't give a rat's ass what all the pros in the world have supposedly said about DNP, that doesn't make it fact. I have had many clients who have claimed to be pro or semi-pro order DNP from me, and as we all know the real pros don't give up their secrets to anyone.
As far as "all you need are months of dieting, GH, T-3, clen, etc."--LMAO. First off, DNP will take all that fat off in one month. Second, put a price tag on all that shit and then compare it to DNP--no contest. I really don't understand this attitude about DNP not being healthy and being "cheating". I'm sorry, I didn't realize that steroids were healthy and that this game was all about "not cheating". EVERYTHING we use is intended to get us somewhere faster and better than we could do naturally, and when it comes to fast results with minimal effort DNP is the king. If you want to be 100% natural and not cheat, then don't even eat protein powder, hell, don't even workout, because then you've got an edge over the next guy...
As far as the scientific issues about DNP being protein sparing, here it is:
"Dinitrophenol does not attack cell tissue albumin and does not determine the fat loss to the expense of the muscles, contrary to thyroxine." (T-3)
DNP is anti-proteolytic which means it uses carbohydrates or fats exclusively to supply energy for the mitochondria and does not facilitate muscle breakdown, however, this does not therefore mean DNP is positive for muscle building. The cells are running on overdrive and they are not going to be looking to make themselves bigger which requires even more energy.
DNP is anti-proteolytic. This means DNP does not break down protein via the mechanism through which DNP works. DNP is actually better for you than cardio because exercise is PROTEOLYTIC which in itself is another reason to not be doing a high fat diet. High fat diets and exercise both lower insulin and raise glucagon levels which cause breakdown of protein. It is a proven fact that 10-20% of energy from exercise comes from AA breakdown as well as release of glutamine from the cells. DNP burns calories and does not affect hormone levels. Someone said something about it causing ketosis which is likely if you don't eat any carbs but DNP is not, by itself going toaffect insulin levels like glucose disposal agents metformin or phenformin.
DNP is not going to be advantageous to muscle building. THIS DOES NOT DISAGREE WITH WHAT I WROTE ABOVE! It is anti-proteolytic via its mode of action, BUT if there is not enough energy in the cells to build muscle it ain't gonna happen. Again, diet is key.
In conclusion, I think one reason people feel they're losing muscle on DNP is simply because the muscles go flat while on. This is because your body is scavenging the glycogen in your muscles to use for energy, once you come off DNP the muscles refill with glycogen (the infamous "anabolic rebound effect"). I know some people that have complained their biceps were smaller, but I always ask them if it's because the muscle actually shrank or because they lost bodyfat in that area. Guess what, if you lose 10-20 lbs--you're gonna be smaller.
Regards,
-H-
IrishMobBoss
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WannaImpress said:
Im going to be doing this very soon,so I will post my results,diet etc,and before and after dnp pics to go with it
TxLonghorn
Community Veteran
Andy13 said:
Not that what you just posted was confusing or anything...but are you saying that if you want to run dnp for fatloss to run a minor amount of gear, say 250mg/test/week or 50mg Winstrol (winny) eod, or something like that to help retain muscle? And that if you are running a 'real' cycle, to forget the dnp totally?
StoneColdNTO
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TxLonghorn said:
That's the way I read it..........
Andy13
Community Veteran, The Chemist
DADAWG said:or you DAWG haters could just read at the start of this thread where i said it was safer to run a light cycle while on dnp .
No DAWG haters here..
As for DNP and AAS, I guess it depends on the length of cycle. If it is one of those miserable 7 day, or worse, 1 month long cycles, your Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) dosing regimen may be different.
Andy
