Do you think one of them is using gear pt. 2

I'm with you on this, my girl always sees these people in our gym and I point out the ones that look enhanced.
Obviously you can never be 100% sure (except for that one guy, fuark) but you have a pretty good idea.
The more you read up on AAS the more you realize how pervasive it is.


So that explains Dennis Wolf's calves....

Yeah, sometimes it's hard to tell... and I think my jealousy comes into play at times hahaha. There's a few guys that are very questionable at my gym. Especially since I have used PH/DS before and I know what it did for me. There's a couple that I know for sure have used gear. One guy was my size, disappeared for a couple months and came back with a huuuuge upper body. His legs, not just calves, but legs are literally the size of my forearm though. Then there's some of the arm and chest only trainers that could be on gear, but it could just be that they ONLY train arms and chest. I think everyone who is serious about training for a significant amount of time, and has the knowledge of AAS at least dabbles to some extent. It's too easy not to in most cases.

LOL yeah... genetics also come into play at that level though obviously.
 
Dat forehead.

If only these women knew that you plaster their pics all over your spank cave before shellacking them to the wall.

Oh get over yourself! She's fuckin gorgeous. Her forehead isn't that bad.

I wish some of them knew. I'm sure they'd be flattered hahaha. I steal them from other websites anyways.
 
I agree completely.
I don't want to be wasting taxpayer money on someone who had to urinate behind a dumpster somewhere.

There was one guy I was looking at that his only offence was being lewd in public.
Why the hell are we paying to track these people?

It really dilutes what it means to be labels a sex offender.
Exactly. I want to know where the pedophiles are that *might* be a potential hazard for my little girl, not some poor schlub that got caught whacking off or even *gasp* was having consensual sex with a 17 year old, only to have her parents report him.

Well... in all honesty I do believe you need drugs to achieve the magazine fitness model look. Not the size necessarily, but the LOOK. You just can't get that lean, dry, grainy, cut out look naturally. Sure you might not need these ridiculous cycles kids come up with, but there's some anabolics and diuretics used for sure.

Take this guy for example, he just won the MP Olympia. Tell me he's not on drugs. His physique isn't even really that impressive. Hell, I don't even think Layne is natural.
Nope, not natural at all. But that's the problem; we've gone from using folks that ARE natural in magazines/TV to those that are clearly not, which sends quite a message to our youth. I always look at the face/jaw structure - that's usually a dead giveaway as those muscles are damn near to build up naturally. I've always had big shoulders/neck from my football days, but my jaw didn't go square until I started with AAS. I just wish the hypocrisy with "don't do drugs, but we're going to market everything with sexy drug users to you" would just come to an end. Either make them available legally, or stop teasing us with images of those that "cheat".

I don't think anyone buys that either.

So here's a question, why is it that traps and shoulder seem to be the first thing that blows up to superhuman proportions when you first start cycling?

Can it be because those muscles get recruited for nearly every movement to some degree?
I'd imagine that it's because they are used in many compound lifts and recover much faster while on AAS. Also, folks that use AAS tend to work muscle groups that accentuate their physique, which happens to be shoulders for men.

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Girl on the left though :wackit:

Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen eyeeesssss. :yumyum:

Ughhh, I haven't gone to the gym as I'm still fighting this cold, but sooooooo want to go as it's back day. :( It doesn't help that I'm on T3 right now, so I can't tell if I'm breaking a fever, or if it's just the thyroid hormone doing its thing. :(
 
Nope, not natural at all. But that's the problem; we've gone from using folks that ARE natural in magazines/TV to those that are clearly not, which sends quite a message to our youth. I always look at the face/jaw structure - that's usually a dead giveaway as those muscles are damn near to build up naturally. I've always had big shoulders/neck from my football days, but my jaw didn't go square until I started with AAS. I just wish the hypocrisy with "don't do drugs, but we're going to market everything with sexy drug users to you" would just come to an end. Either make them available legally, or stop teasing us with images of those that "cheat".

Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen eyeeesssss. :yumyum:

Ughhh, I haven't gone to the gym as I'm still fighting this cold, but sooooooo want to go as it's back day. :( It doesn't help that I'm on T3 right now, so I can't tell if I'm breaking a fever, or if it's just the thyroid hormone doing its thing. :(

Some magazines still have natty looking guys. Like Men's Fitness has natty guys a lot. I've never really seen natural looking guys to be prevalent in mags though. GRANTED, I've never been big into fitness magazines. So what is the explanation for the more pronounced jaw with AAS use? It seems to be particularly test that really brings it out. Is it the same thing with androgen receptors? I agree with that for sure. I think that's why this whole exposing fake natties has come to light and grown in popularity so fast. Again, it's a double edged sword though cause it exposes the truth but pushes the need to use drugs to look that way.

I'm such a damn sucker for dark hair with green eyes. It seriously makes me want to punch babies I get so excited.
Do you take extra vitamin C? I take an extra 1000mg/day and I (knock on wood) never get sick. I seriously used to get sick ALL the time. Like 8 times a year.
 
Some magazines still have natty looking guys. Like Men's Fitness has natty guys a lot. I've never really seen natural looking guys to be prevalent in mags though. GRANTED, I've never been big into fitness magazines. So what is the explanation for the more pronounced jaw with AAS use? It seems to be particularly test that really brings it out. Is it the same thing with androgen receptors? I agree with that for sure. I think that's why this whole exposing fake natties has come to light and grown in popularity so fast. Again, it's a double edged sword though cause it exposes the truth but pushes the need to use drugs to look that way.

I'm such a damn sucker for dark hair with green eyes. It seriously makes me want to punch babies I get so excited.
Do you take extra vitamin C? I take an extra 1000mg/day and I (knock on wood) never get sick. I seriously used to get sick ALL the time. Like 8 times a year.
From what I understand yes, you are correct. The androgen receptors in the mandibular region are pretty dormant without the use of AAS. As we use these muscles constantly, they will grow like any other muscle when stimulated. Even the guys in fitness mags are on drugs, just usually primo and anavar. Sure, there are some that really are natural, but they're far and few between. ;)

Yep, I take a ton of vitamin C and hardly am ever sick. I think all the stress I have going on from some crazy courses this semester coupled with financial aid fucking with me finally dragged me down. I might be sick once a year otherwise - and that's usually from food poisoning haha. I just can't say no to chicken, even if it might smell a bit off. :crying:
 
Oh get over yourself! She's fuckin gorgeous. Her forehead isn't that bad.

I gotta give you at least a little shit since you like to pick on my preferences.

FURRIES FOR LIFE!!


lol.


*edit* Oh wow, THIS is the post that broke our old thread record? Greeeaaat.
 
Ughhh, I haven't gone to the gym as I'm still fighting this cold, but sooooooo want to go as it's back day. :( It doesn't help that I'm on T3 right now, so I can't tell if I'm breaking a fever, or if it's just the thyroid hormone doing its thing. :(

How much of the T3 are you using at the moment?

I gotta say, I am impressed with the T3 from the orange/red echidna.
It's allowing me to eat more while maintaining and lose significantly easier.
If I didn't pig out on weekends, I'd be losing about 3lbs per week eating the same diet that was netting me .5lb/week before. It's crazy.

I'm on 60mcg but all I'm trying to do is bring my sub-clinical hypothyroid back into high-normal range.
 
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How much of the T3 are you using at the moment?

I gotta say, I am impressed with the T3 from the orange/red echidna.
It's allowing me to eat more while maintaining and lose significantly easier.
If I didn't pig out on weekends, I'd be losing about 3lbs per week eating the same diet that was netting me .5lb/week before. It's crazy.

I'm on 60mcg but all I'm trying to do is bring my sub-clinical hypothyroid back into high-normal range.

I'm on 80mcg and don't plan on going higher. I've always been borderline hypo, but like to toss it in to go slightly hyper for that extra oomph.
 
so my 1 year anniversary was sunday.. hence my being mia for a while...

wife bought me "the last of us" on the ps3... i went from one addiction to another.. havn't finished it yet but i gotta get off the couch and get back in the office and on the forums lol
 
so my 1 year anniversary was sunday.. hence my being mia for a while...

wife bought me "the last of us" on the ps3... i went from one addiction to another.. havn't finished it yet but i gotta get off the couch and get back in the office and on the forums lol
First, congratulations!

Now, Dre owes me a high five. I soooooo called it! ;)
 
I'm on 80mcg and don't plan on going higher. I've always been borderline hypo, but like to toss it in to go slightly hyper for that extra oomph.

Do you know for sure that the 80mcg is pushing you into hyper territory?
How far above range does it put you?
 
so my 1 year anniversary was sunday.. hence my being mia for a while...

wife bought me "the last of us" on the ps3... i went from one addiction to another.. havn't finished it yet but i gotta get off the couch and get back in the office and on the forums lol

Good to see you come up for air every once in a while 3J.
Congrats on the anniversary and bringing C172 another 1st place!
 
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Do you know for sure that the 80mcg is pushing you into hyper territory?
How far above range does it put you?

Uhhhhhhh, I haven't gotten a blood test recently to verify - but last time when I was a good 25lbs heavier, it was pushing me into hyper by a good 20-30 points on a total T3 panel.
 
Dude you had to have planned that shit. No way we just talked about this exact same fucking thing and BOOOOOM, 3J shows up to say I'm fucking wrong lmao
LOL!

But I got busted for my Taco Bell meme. :(

Fuck soft tacos sound amazing. That's it! BRB, tuna and rice time before I do something stupid. :mad:
 
Uhhhhhhh, I haven't gotten a blood test recently to verify - but last time when I was a good 25lbs heavier, it was pushing me into hyper by a good 20-30 points on a total T3 panel.

Interesting. What was the total swing, do you know?
It's hard to believe that little of a substance can have that much of an effect.
Maybe I'll drop my dosing down to 40mcg even though Austin/Dre don't recommend going less than 50.
 
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