I disagree. I run 20mgs of dbol a day when my cycle is done and i am waiting for my esters to clear to start post cycle therapy (pct). Whne i start post cycle therapy (pct), i run 5mg dbol every morning. My nuts come right back, and i dont lose a damn thing. I continue the 5mg of dbol in the morning for about a week after post cycle therapy (pct). Then stay off for a whiule.