Dr prescribed post cycle therapy (pct) - Is he Insane ?!

[OnStar]

Dr prescribed PCT - Is he Insane ?!

I just complete 10 weeks of 400mg of Test Cyp and wanted to cycle off for 8 weeks. I called my Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) doctor, who prescribed the test, Adex (0.5 ED and HCG 350iu 3x week) and told him what I needed as post cycle therapy (pct). I asked for;

HCG (500iu ED of 10 days starting day after last injection),
Clomid (50mg ED for 4 weeks starting 2 weeks after last injection)
Nolvadex (20mg for 2 weeks and 10mg for 4 more weeks)

He said no, this is what I need to do…..
HCG (a 10000iu bottle, mix 3cc of Bac water) 1cc every 5 days for a total of 3 injections
Clomid (50mg 3x a week for 4 weeks)

He said no to the Nolvadex and when I asked why he said that not how he does it. He said to get levels tested 1 week after I finish the Clomid and can start on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) again.

I spoke to a trainer who suggested to take the 10000iu HCG and mix 2cc of Bac water and do daily injections of 50ml (in a diabetic syringe this is the mark half way below the 10…so a very little amount but at a higher concentration) and to take the Clomid at 25mg 3x a week for 6 weeks.

Ive read for hours and completely insane on what to do….. asking for help.

 

[OnStar]

Dr prescribed PCT....Is he Insane ??!!

I just complete 10 weeks of 400mg of Test Cyp and wanted to cycle off for 8 weeks. I called my Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) doctor, who prescribed the test, Adex (0.5 ED and HCG 350iu 3x week) and told him what I needed as post cycle therapy (pct). I asked for;

HCG (500iu ED of 10 days starting day after last injection),
Clomid (50mg ED for 4 weeks starting 2 weeks after last injection)
Nolvadex (20mg for 2 weeks and 10mg for 4 more weeks)
He said no, this is what I need to do…..
HCG (a 10000iu bottle, mix 3cc of Bac water) 1cc every 5 days for a total of 3 injections
Clomid (50mg 3x a week for 4 weeks)

He said no to the Nolvadex and when I asked why he said that not how he does it. He said to get levels tested 1 week after I finish the Clomid and can start on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) again.

I spoke to a trainer who suggested to take the 10000iu HCG and mix 2cc of Bac water and do daily injections of 50ml (in a diabetic syringe this is the mark half way below the 10…so a very little amount but at a higher concentration) Do this for 6 weeks. Also to take the Clomid at 25mg 3x a week for 6 weeks.

Ive read for hours and completely insane on what to do….. asking for help.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

If your on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) there is no point in PCT.

 

[ChrisWho?]

Alot of people like me use just clomid alone for pct along with HCG during the waiting time to start post cycle therapy (pct). So not having nolva is no big deal, i'm also not sure what the problem is in your post? As DET said, if your on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), why pct?

 

[OnStar]

Alot of people like me use just clomid alone for post cycle therapy (pct) along with HCG during the waiting time to start post cycle therapy (pct). So not having nolva is no big deal, i'm also not sure what the problem is in your post? As DET said, if your on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), why post cycle therapy (pct)?

Well script was for 220mg 1x/week. I may have not measure correctly (wink) and did 200mg (twice a week) for 10 weeks. As my blood work showed, my LH/FSH was shut down. I gained 12lbs of muscle and lost 3% BF. I want to cycle off for 8 weeks just to prevent my system shutting down and being able to have kids in the future. I plan to go back on at around 600mg/week when post cycle therapy (pct) is over.

I am concerned with 1) keeping gains 2)getting gyno 3) my libido

 

[MoparMuscle]

So a 400mg a week test cycle followed by a post cycle therapy (pct)? Not sure how a "Dr" would justify this as HRT, just my personal opinion.

 

[foamy27]

IF you are on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) then your natty test will be completely shut down at all timesso there is no point in running a post cycle therapy (pct) because your natural test will not start back up.

 

[OnStar]

If I cruise on Test and never come off then I am also not going to be fertile. At 42 my test levels were 310ng/ml and free test was 2.8 before getting a script for Test Cyp. The only reason for coming off was to prevent total shut down of LH/FSH in the future.

I understand that doing post cycle therapy (pct) properly is the key to keeping gains (along with diet and training)

 

[OnStar]

So a 400mg a week test cycle followed by a post cycle therapy (pct)? Not sure how a "Dr" would justify this as HRT, just my personal opinion.

He scripted for 1.1cc a week of 220mg. It was my "choice" to do otherwise.

 

[08busa]

not to be a dick by any stretch of the imagination but it seems like you and your dr both know absolutely nothing. you better hook with chip so you dont f yourself up too bad bro. do you really think hcg off cycle is a good idea? if you do you need to do some more research. also you dont just happen upon testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for 10 weeks. call it what it is you are cycling. next time you decide to cycle have your pct in order before hand

 

[juced_porkchop]

I just complete 10 weeks of 400mg of Test Cyp and wanted to cycle off for 8 weeks. I called my Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) doctor, who prescribed the test, Adex (0.5 ED and HCG 350iu 3x week) and told him what I needed as post cycle therapy (pct). I asked for;

HCG (500iu ED of 10 days starting day after last injection),
Clomid (50mg ED for 4 weeks starting 2 weeks after last injection)
Nolvadex (20mg for 2 weeks and 10mg for 4 more weeks)

He said no, this is what I need to do…..
HCG (a 10000iu bottle, mix 3cc of Bac water) 1cc every 5 days for a total of 3 injections
Clomid (50mg 3x a week for 4 weeks)

He said no to the Nolvadex and when I asked why he said that not how he does it. He said to get levels tested 1 week after I finish the Clomid and can start on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) again.

I spoke to a trainer who suggested to take the 10000iu HCG and mix 2cc of Bac water and do daily injections of 50ml (in a diabetic syringe this is the mark half way below the 10…so a very little amount but at a higher concentration) and to take the Clomid at 25mg 3x a week for 6 weeks.

Ive read for hours and completely insane on what to do….. asking for help.

I Rec 500iu 2X a week (about 3-4days apart) for the last 4 to 5 weeks of the cycle leading upto BUT NOT INTO post cycle therapy (pct) to help with recovery. aldo i would normally also say 25-50mg clomid everyday for 4 or so weeks.

 

[OnStar]

not to be a dick by any stretch of the imagination but it seems like you and your dr both know absolutely nothing. you better hook with chip so you dont f yourself up too bad bro. do you really think hcg off cycle is a good idea? if you do you need to do some more research. also you dont just happen upon testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for 10 weeks. call it what it is you are cycling. next time you decide to cycle have your pct in order before hand

Maybe I didn't post it properly. HCG is 500iu ED for 10days. PCT of Clomid starts 14 days after last injection of Cyp and will consist of only Clomid. HCG will be prior to post cycle therapy (pct). Problem is the limited amount of Clomid that I have

 

[mlc31]

If you're talking about going "off cycle" and post cycle therapy (pct), you're not really talking about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) IMO. You may be able to get better help in the AAS forum.

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

I have never HEARD OF, nor RENDERED, nor if I was on every hallucinogen on the planet, would a client of min be subjected to that asinine type of a JOKE of a concoction! I won't even give it the merit of the word "protocol"!!! Your "trainer to the stars" is fucking douchebag and your doc should have his license stripped!

 

[OnStar]

Chip- i will make an emergency appointment with him and speak with him in person. Since you are in the biz of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), what SHOULD i ask him for....now i am concerned....no, more like freaked out.

 

[ZoDaddy]

Definitely not testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). An ill advised cycle at best.

 

[cjw2021]

haha just talk to him over the phone.

 

[RJ]

Chip- i will make an emergency appointment with him and speak with him in person. Since you are in the biz of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), what SHOULD i ask him for....now i am concerned....no, more like freaked out.

you shouldn't ask him for anything other than your normal Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) meds.

Do you understand what the fuck Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) means? It sure as fuck doesn't sound like it. With any Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) protocol, whether your cycle in between or not, you don't ever come off, so you don't need a PCT.