E2 problems??? Blood work already???

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Crushercurtis

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Currently on the week 3 of my cycle.
Cycle is
500mg prop
500mg npp
800mg eq
100mg var ED

Var is just for first 4 weeks
npp is just for first 8 weeks

Got every thing on hand, caber, adex, aromasin, ralox, clomid, nolva, fadogia agrestis, HCG etc. etc.

Here is the problem. I was starting to get a really big libido boost and the end of week one. Was really enjoying it. Week 2 starts and decide to start taking my hcg at 500iu twice weekly I figure if the test is kicking in already, then i better start. I take a shot on Monday of week 2. I know I'm gyno prone and hcg can add to the aromatization so i decide to take .25mg of adex also on monday of week 2. Well there goes my libido boost. I'm not sure if I still had it Tuesday, but I know that by Wednesday of week 2 the boost was gone. Here I sit on Wednesday of week 3 and it still hasn't come back and i haven't taken anymore adex since monday of week 2. I did continue with the hcg as planned at 500iu twice weekly. Over the last 2 days I've noticed slight sensitivity in my right nipple. On scale of 1 to 10 (10 being a full blown lump). The sensitivity is about 1 and would be easily missed the average user who's never had gyno issues and I know a little sensitivity is okay. I know, I know, I know. Get bloodwork. I just seems so soon and this is a 16 weeker and i know I'll need to get blood work again and its expensive at $300+. This is my first cycle with adex. I switch from aromasin because I go tired of killing my libido with aromasin.

What is likely the problem here Low or high e2?
Should I use the caber (never used it in the past)?
How many times do you get blood work during a cycle?
 
ur presently running 2500 mg of your poperee cycle if u add up all the numbers, right ? That s a healthy lil cycle. NPP is basically short estered Dick killing deca.

So it may not be e2, prolactin may be the issue...ie a dop antag. maybe in order. And btw blood panels can be secured for 50 bucks and as it s the only way to sure....
Or u can try to counter npp w what u got or I know you know that they know---get bloods to sure.
 
I would say since you only took adex twice in 3 weeks that you have elevated e2. You should've started adex and hcg day one of your cycle. You are running short esters. They do kick in fast. You really have no choice but to get blood work...
 
You got the word from 3 of the best member that you will find on the forum, not much more to be added man. Listen to what they said.
 
Describe libido boost for us. Not 'horny' or can't perform. For me, high prolactin issues manifest by not being able to maintain sustainable wood to finish the job.

Crashing prolactin isn't as bad as crashing your estrogen. And you said you were gyno prone.

I'd try doubling up on your aromosin for a week and adding 1/2 mg 2x/week of the caber. That should get things working again. But, as others have stated, getting bloodwork done will help tremendously to 'Dial it in' so to speak. As it now something is definitely amiss. I'd guess your e2 is high AND more than likely your prolactin is as well.
Keep us posted brother
 
So just to pick up where I left off. I last had taken adex at .25 on Monday of week 2 and by Wednesday my Libido was very very low, so i didn't take anymore. I didn't take any at all during week 3 either, and I my libido remained low. At the start or week 4 I started to believe my libido problem was due to high E2 so I took .25 adex on Monday and .25 adex on Wednesday. Friday of week 4 was when I got the below blood work done. After I got the blood work done I took another .25 adex on that Friday and again Sunday. So pretty much at the start of week 4 I took .25 adex eod for 4 days (.50 before getting blood work and .50 after). My libido is at absolute zilch right now and following the eod schedule I should take one today, but I haven't yet. Here's my blood work after 3.75 weeks of the above cycle and .75 of adex. I nipples are at about a 3 out of 10 on both nipples for sensitivity. I hope all that isn't too confusing. what the hell is wrong with me?
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E2 looks too low given that you had the non-sensitive Assay done. But who knows what is going on as you have changed you adex dosages every week!

You still have not described what you mean by libido issues as requested in previous posts. Please provide this info.

What did you prolactin come in at? I don't see it on here.
 
Prolactin was the number thing i was looking for and I didn't see it and I did order the $73 Female panel as your FAQ instructed, is there another panel I can order with prolactin? Having a week libido is horrible, because i got a new girl and its valentines day this weekend. So during week 1 when I had a great libido, every time this girl would text me I'd get an erection, I had to make myself stop thinking about sex all day. Now I'm really slow to get erections and their week. I can' t recall exactly if i woke up with one or not this morning, but definitely by the time I got out of bed it was gone. During week 1, I would wake up and take a piss and still be rock hard. Also will the total testosterone increase as eq kicks in, the bloods weren't even taken at a full 4 weeks? Isn't 2500 too low?
 
Crushercurtis said:
Prolactin was the number thing i was looking for and I didn't see it and I did order the $73 Female panel as your FAQ instructed, is there another panel I can order with prolactin? Having a week libido is horrible, because i got a new girl and its valentines day this weekend. So during week 1 when I had a great libido, every time this girl would text me I'd get an erection, I had to make myself stop thinking about sex all day. Now I'm really slow to get erections and their week. I can' t recall exactly if i woke up with one or not this morning, but definitely by the time I got out of bed it was gone. During week 1, I would wake up and take a piss and still be rock hard. Also will the total testosterone increase as eq kicks in, the bloods weren't even taken at a full 4 weeks? Isn't 2500 too low?
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Let me see if I can respond to your different points.

Prolactin is not in that Panel you ordered. It should be ordered al la carte.

So to summarize your "libido" issues, you are having erection problems? If so, that is not a libido problem. Libido is about the desire to have sex. You are only talking about the ability to gert erections. That is an entirely different problem. One that is often a result of both high and low estrogen.

Total Test will not increase as the EQ kicks in. EQ is not testosterone nor is it read as testosterone by the blood test.

TT of 2,500 is not too low for 500mg/week of Test. For comparison, 200mg/wk puts me around 1,000ng/dl. So if you assume it is linear, you are pretty close to where you should be on that dose.
 
Gotcha and thanks for all your help, I will be ordering the prolactin test asap. My desire to have sex is also decreased as well as the quality of my erections. So at this point I'm thinking just lay off the adex for a while, get prolactin test and possible start caber depending on the results? Or should I just hop on caber in the mean time?
 
Crushercurtis said:
Gotcha and thanks for all your help, I will be ordering the prolactin test asap. My desire to have sex is also decreased as well as the quality of my erections. So at this point I'm thinking just lay off the adex for a while, get prolactin test and possible start caber depending on the results? Or should I just hop on caber in the mean time?
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Get the blood work first. There are risks with taking a DA.
 
Been super busy, but got these results Thursday. I think the issue is probably low E2. Been laying off the adex and its coming back slowly (very slowly though). As you an see I'm here on valentines day, I may have blew it with that girl.

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