Effects of weaker roids on a 21yo?

[comrade00]

Sorry I could not come up with a better title.

If you guys remember me, last month or so I posted about getting on a Equipoise/Test cycle. Thank to you guys I did not go on this cycle because after reading some posts, I did realize that being 21 is too young to do roids. The problem is, about 1/3 of my social circle works out and does roids and there all as young or younger than me, and some or on some pretty serious gear such as tren. I tried to talk them out of it however they dont listen because they dont "feel" it doing anything bad to them after x amount of months of usage and most say I am just too paranoid. I do have a friend who is more level headed than most that was going to get on gear as well until I talked him out of it and actually showed him this site and showed him posts in here about young roid usage. But the problem is me and him have always been curious about taking roids and actually do want to take them because its hard to look good naturally when the people around you are all on gear...
Bottom Line:
My friend recently suggested to me that we should get on an oral cycle of some Anavar..or Halo..or Winstol type steroid. He told me that those steroids wont jack us up because they dont really have any extreme test boost like the other ones. For example, on the roids I just listed you do not need to go on a PCT OR take test while you're on it OR estrogen blocker while you're on them. So are these really safe to take for a 21 year old? My friend also told me that the Anavar is not strong at all and as a matter of fact, he told me that creatine does more damage to your liver.

Is this true? Is it safe? What damages DO these do since their not like other roids that require PCT and other things?
I wanted to ask you guys because some of you in here know your shit like a doctor.
And I am open to listen to all of you, not trying to kiss ass but its thanks to this community that I did not start my injectible cycle.
Thank you

 

[DD55]

Dude,
You have your whole life to juice. Save it for when you're 25 or older. I admire you standing strong when there's so much temptation.
Don't bother with the bloody Orals. Especially the three you're talking about. Orals are good for supplementing injectable base cycles. Forget about winstrol. It's for competitive body builders and would do you more harm than good. Halo, too. Anavar is good as a supplement to a test base. If you're hell bent to do anything do a short cycle of test (but research a beginning cycle here). Don't forget that diet and pct are key. Many guys will say it's almost more important than the gear!!
Be strong for a few more years. You have plenty of time.

 

[3DRanger87]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/598646-oral-cycles.html

Read.

 

[tesseract]

anavar by itself is a horrible idea, you will lose everything and you will end up with limp dick unless you take it forever, in which case your liver wll jump out your body and try to strangle you.
halo, i have no idea what kinda faggot type shit this is, I am betting a designer steroid, so probably like proviron but also probably 10 times as toxic since it got a17-ed
winstrol is extremely toxic and probably the worst steroid out there and will not give you any results just dry you up

oral steroids are the worst, since the body will detect an oral steroid as an intruder it will try to eliminate the absorption, the 17-alpha alkylated molecule will "distract" the liver by making it work overtime and keeping it busy so that the steroid can get absorbed by the proper receptors. Do not ever do this. Anavar will make you look good for 4 weeks, and then what, back to looking like an idiot with your kick ass friends? Take it forever and lose your liver? Goddamnit, if your friends are so stupid maybe you should get some new, intelligent friends?

PS: an 17-alpha alkylated steroid will be forever more stressful on the liver then creatine.

 

[luvtofight]

I started at 21, still am. I follow proper ways to do it, go get a blood work before you start. See I'm into bodybuilding and I compete, that's my reason but if you must run a test only cycle maybe throw in some dbol.

 

[comrade00]

anavar by itself is a horrible idea, you will lose everything and you will end up with limp dick unless you take it forever, in which case your liver wll jump out your body and try to strangle you.
halo, i have no idea what kinda faggot type shit this is, I am betting a designer steroid, so probably like proviron but also probably 10 times as toxic since it got a17-ed
winstrol is extremely toxic and probably the worst steroid out there and will not give you any results just dry you up

oral steroids are the worst, since the body will detect an oral steroid as an intruder it will try to eliminate the absorption, the 17-alpha alkylated molecule will "distract" the liver by making it work overtime and keeping it busy so that the steroid can get absorbed by the proper receptors. Do not ever do this. Anavar will make you look good for 4 weeks, and then what, back to looking like an idiot with your kick ass friends? Take it forever and lose your liver? Goddamnit, if your friends are so stupid maybe you should get some new, intelligent friends?

PS: an 17-alpha alkylated steroid will be forever more stressful on the liver then creatine.

This is why I come here, god damn that was a good post.
I did now not you loose your gains after you're off the Anavar (var). Fuck orals, not doing them. Thank you

 

[D-Cal]

lmfao at tesseracts answer. yeah oral only cycles are queer, if you're talking about haloTESTIN then that is one bomb ass oral to take, recomend 30-40mg ed stacked WITH some test, nice little combo

 

[tesseract]

ooohhh yea, halotestin, why didn't i see that?
I thought he was talking about that stupid prohormone halotest 25

yea pardon me, halotestin is awesome, but with a test base, however I hear that agression goes up A LOT.

 

[tesseract]

This is why I come here, god damn that was a good post.
I did now not you loose your gains after you're off the Anavar (var). Fuck orals, not doing them. Thank you

No problem, glad to see people that listen.

Now please get out of that stupid friend circle, those kids will ruin you.

 

[comrade00]

No problem, glad to see people that listen.

Now please get out of that stupid friend circle, those kids will ruin you.

Nah, I dont fall to peer pressure, before doing something big I always take a step back and re-think kinda like here where I'm asking experienced people so I am good.


But out of curiousity what will happen to some of my friends that are 19/20/21 that are on tren/test cycles...or others that are on dbol and such?

 

[couch]

halo, i have no idea what kinda faggot type shit this is, I am betting a designer steroid, so probably like proviron but also probably 10 times as toxic since it got a17-ed

halotestin (fluoxymesterone) is what the gods themselves use for powerlifting. calm thyself.

 

[couch]

But out of curiousity what will happen to some of my friends that are 19/20/21 that are on tren/test cycles...or others that are on dbol and such?

tren will turn your balls off like a switch. the problem with this when you're nineteen is you kind of need your balls. you won't notice it if you're on tren/test, but coming off you will feel like a complete eunuch. are your bros here using pct?

 

[SonOfZeu$]

halotestin is also expense, double as expense as var, so your expecting to spend alot on just halo it self I mean alottt.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

tren will turn your balls off like a switch. the problem with this when you're nineteen is you kind of need your balls. you won't notice it if you're on tren/test, but coming off you will feel like a complete eunuch. are your bros here using post cycle therapy (pct)?

tren sure does shut down you ballz lol, and it is quite hard to recover from, i know i didn't recover 100% until about 2-4weeks after my post cycle therapy (pct) of 100/100/50/50 clomid and 40/40/20/20 nolva. Will def try out HCG and see how much of a difference it makes when i run tren for my next cycle with var

 

[donjob]

your friends have absoloutely no idea what the fuck they are doing, or they wouldn't be running gear. they won't be producing test a couple years from now, will probably lose the desire to lift anyways and will be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life. stay away from these dumb fucks. who cares if they are bigger and lift more now? when you're all 25 you will be jacked and ready for gear while they all quit lifting at age 23 and look like shit now. who will be laughing then?

 

[comrade00]

your friends have absoloutely no idea what the fuck they are doing, or they wouldn't be running gear. they won't be producing test a couple years from now, will probably lose the desire to lift anyways and will be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life. stay away from these dumb fucks. who cares if they are bigger and lift more now? when you're all 25 you will be jacked and ready for gear while they all quit lifting at age 23 and look like shit now. who will be laughing then?

True..very true.
So at age 25+ roids will not destroy your balls...correct?

 

[couch]

True..very true.
So at age 25+ roids will not destroy your balls...correct?

that's not how it works. androgens always cause shutdown. the difference between someone who is 35 and someone who is 20 is that the 35-year-old is finished growing and likely already has lower testosterone. when you're 20, your balls are still producing lots of t, you're in your prime, take advantage of that.

 

[DUBBED]

, he told me that creatine does more damage to your liver.

that is retarted.
it do not do that!

when you go for blood test they look and if high levels they ASSUME it damage... why?
because most people do not take extra Creatine and they level not high!
NO true for liver damage from creatine.
also bad idea to do the oral only cycle.
wait 3 or 4 more year!

 

[DUBBED]

True..very true.
So at age 25+ roids will not destroy your balls...correct?

it not stop development but still get shut down no matter WHAT aas you use.

 

[vladiT]

I didnt even bother reading your whole post, FUCK PEER PRESSURE, YOU DO YOU

Let your friends fuck themselves up, their body will forever be out of wack... To many little know it all shits come in and think they juice and they are king, then they get off, and they have nothing because they dont even acutaly know how to properly eat or workout.

Focus on Diet, and Fourm.... once you have a strong foundation, you will be much better off, you will be educated, and your body will be able to much better support for the rest of your life, not just for you to show off temporarily.