ephedrine

I'm soooo f'ing pissed that they made it illegal.. I've tried a couple of different fat burners and they all suck now.. Anyone know of any FB's that are good without ephedrine??
 
rsx-sman said:
I'm soooo f'ing pissed that they made it illegal.. I've tried a couple of different fat burners and they all suck now.. Anyone know of any FB's that are good without ephedrine??

I actually had some success with Xenadrine EFX. But now I'm wary of green tea extract which is a pretty major ingredient.
 
I just bought 400 25 mg tabs!!! I would have bought more but thats all he had,as one of the other guys said just go to any independent supp store and ask for it.It makes me laugh that they ban Ephedra but smoking is still okay?? what a joke.

F.
 
Considering that ephedrine is illegal in canada...how is it possible to get it from those sites that publically advertise it....it seems fishy....
 
its not illegal in canada, in the 8mg form that is...they are just regulating the shit out of it, I could be wrong though....

the price is so fucking expensive now though, fuck all these fucks!
 
Here's an article I found on the net the other day about the differences between the two:

Ephedrine and pseudoephedrine are both beta adrenoceptor agonists, which means that they partially mimic the effects of having an adrenaline rush. "Partially," because they differ structurally from adrenaline enough that they don't perform all the actions that actual adrenaline would to the same degree--both ephedrine and pseudoephedrine, for example, elevate your heart rate and blood pressure less than adrenaline would. Ephedrine will do much more to dilate your bronchial passages and raise your body temperature (and metabolic rate) than psuedoephedrine will; pseudoephedrine, on the other hand, is more effective as a decongestant.

Caffeine, however, is a phosphodiesterase inhibitor, and phosphodiesterase is an enzyme that breaks down cAMP (cyclic adenosine monophosphate) which is a messenger chemical that is generated within the cell in response to the stimulation of a suitable receptor (such as a beta receptor excited by the presence of ephedrine). So, what caffeine does is to make the other stimulatory chemicals more effective--ephedrine switches the cellular processes on, caffeine makes them stay on longer.

So, yes, caffeine will cause pseudoephedrine to be more effective for keeping your nose clear than pseudoephedrine would be alone. Current research does not indicate that this is a major advantage in weight loss, however. So, you're much better off with ephedrine, which can be found in several OTC asthma medications (and it's not going to make much difference whether it's ephedrine HCL or ephedrine sulphate).
 
I'm soooo f'ing pissed that they made it illegal.. I've tried a couple of different fat burners and they all suck now.. Anyone know of any FB's that are good without ephedrine??

Thats because it is the base in bathtub crank, but with high quality crystal meth, who needs it:) JK
 
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