Estrogen control on test E and dbol cycle?

[karnc7]

Stats: 23,Male, 190lbs. Been into weight training for about 4years.

Have done 2 oral cycles before of dbol and winny(No critics on this one, got satisfying results with no shutdown) but the time i did the dbol cycle(which was my first one ), i was a complete noob and didnt even knew what i was doing.Ended up having a little lumps on the both sides.

Now, i am looking forward of doing test e 400mg per week for 10weeks and dbol 20mgs/day for 4weeks. I already have my gear so cannot and dont want to ditch any of these. Plus i got aromasin, nolva, clomid. hcg. Still trying to get letro for emergency but chances are few because it is banned over here.

So my questions goes like this:

1.My aromasin is still on its way, my cousin is bringing it with him.So i am looking forward to start my cycle from tomorrow but only test e (will start dbol with aromasin most likely next week).I got nolva to run with it,would this be enough.SO should i do it or should i wait and start from next week all along. As i stated i already have those lumps under and dont want them to grow further.The reason why i want to start from tomorrow is that by the time i do my post cycle therapy (pct) i'll be out of town and wont be able to do the shots but if there is a risk then ill start from next week.

2.I've read that dbol aromatises to e2(which is much more potent than e1 and e3) heavily and aromasin is able to eliminate e2 by 35%.So at what dosage should i run aromasin, would this be enough or i need to take nolva with it.

3. As per my research, i've been looking forward to start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from 3rd week at 250ius e4d to 6th week and take 2 week off(to prevent desensatizing of my nuts) and start again at 500ius e4d. Correct me if i am wrong somewhere.

4. I got test in amps of 250mg, looking forward to do 400mg/week.So how should i store the remaining test until the next shot.NO i cannot do 500/week as i have limited supply.

 

[JMAN1982]

Dbol was pretty rough on me, no gyno issues but man did my skin go crazy. bloat was not a big issue for me as my diet was pretty clean but the addition of dbol to my cycle was def. noticable (pro and con). I would wait till I had the letro if dbol is involved if it was just test I would say go for it.

 

[Austinite]

Well, it's merely impossible that you didn't get shut down, that's not how the human body works, but I wont critique as you said...

1. Save the nolva for PCT, and if you have plenty of it, it could help you reverse gyno should signs arise. Use Aromasin from day 1.
2. Aromasin should suffice. Dbol's aromatase activity is modest.
3. I'd run hCG through the entire cycle. It will not only prevent testicular atrophy, but it will retain function and you'll recover faster.
4. Preload a syringe or dump the contents into a sterile vial.

I would wait until I have the ability to purchase more test. 400mg for 10 weeks is on the lower end of results.

Good luck.

 

[karnc7]

Well, it's merely impossible that you didn't get shut down, that's not how the human body works, but I wont critique as you said...

I didnt had a shutdown but i was suppressed.

 

[karnc7]

4. Preload a syringe or dump the contents into a sterile vial.

So i should load the test and put the needle cap back and store it aside?

 

[DreDay187]

I didnt had a shutdown but i was suppressed.

When taking orals your natural test production is shutdown. Whether you saw side effects or not, your body WAS NOT producing endogenous testosterone unless your gear was bunk, hence the impossibility of not being shutdown.

 

[bigkit34]

I didnt had a shutdown but i was suppressed.

another cat with only 4 posts that knows more than everybody already lol

 

[Rumpy]

Yes to everything everyone else has said. I would say run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 250iu 2X/week with the last pin 3-4 days before post cycle therapy (pct). Count backwards to figure out when to start. You do not need to start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on day one because it takes a while for you to shut down, but I would start at week 2 or 3 if you have enough. It's more important to end on the right date, so start when you can. I would strongly recommend waiting to start until you have more test. Remember that you'll likely loose 0.1ml per pin to needle volume alone, so you actually have even less than you think. 400 is too low and 10 weeks is too short. 400 will completely "suppress" you down, so a good chunk of that goes to get replacing your natural and getting you back to normal (TRT dose). You also need to take time off between cycles. That should be equal to time on plus post cycle therapy (pct), so with a 10 week run, 2 week break and 4 weeks of post cycle therapy (pct), that's at least 4 months or more after post cycle therapy (pct) before you can run again. That means 6 months from the last test pin of this one until the first pin of your next one. Keep that in mind while you're getting all impatient about this one.