Experience needed and much appreciated

[dean888]

Stats:
20
5ft 9
191lbs
12-13% bf

Lifts:
Bench: 235-8
Deadlift:430-8
Squat: 315-8


I've put on nearly 40lbs of mass in the past 2 and a half years, 60 in the past 3. My life is consumed with strict/clean diets, hours in the gym each day and a wide range of supplements. I've come to the conclusion that I will compete in the upcoming local bodybuilding show. I am destined to compete in the 170s.

Bulk cycle: Week 1-12 500mg test (250 2x)
Week 1-4 dbol 20mg
PCT- Tomoxifen 40/40/20/20/10
Liver support- Milk thistle

I also have a show cycle which I have not 100% figure out yet
I have done countless hours of research, eat properly and train as hardest as possible

 

[XELFLEC]

How's your pre cycle blood work looking?

 

[frank.tb]

I say you are too young bro...
I.know you probably won't listen so best of luck...
Also throw out the.milk thistle...it's a waste of time...wrong liver support bro
Your pct is also incorrect. You have more countlless hours to read bro

 

[dean888]

How's your pre cycle blood work looking?

I haven't gotten blood work done and I wasn't planning on it honestly. I have 5 weeks until I start the cycle but do you think that is a necessity?

 

[dean888]

I do agree with your opinion but how compete against guys that aren't natural? Its IMPOSSIBLE unless you got a jackass that doesn't lift and takes gear. What would you suggest as a pct? Clomid?

 

[frank.tb]

Just read the sticky regarding proper pct protocol and the sticky about 1st time cycles...
And yes blood work is a necessity before during and after cycle.

 

[dean888]

I say you are too young bro...
I.know you probably won't listen so best of luck...
Also throw out the.milk thistle...it's a waste of time...wrong liver support bro
Your pct is also incorrect. You have more countlless hours to read bro

I do agree with your opinion but how compete against guys that aren't natural? Its IMPOSSIBLE unless you got a jackass that doesn't lift and takes gear. What would you suggest as a post cycle therapy (pct)? Clomid?

 

[frank.tb]

I don't think you should use...but.the stickys are there to read...I will not give you direct advice but I will direct you to the stickys...read ALL OF THEM...

 

[frank.tb]

You could compete in natural shows until you are of age bro.
Best of luck at your upcoming show or shows...

 

[dean888]

Yeah I actually read that before. Says nolva is fine. 40/40/20/20?

 

[dean888]

Thanks for the information though, I really do appreciate it.

 

[frank.tb]

Bro another compound is recommend to take with it.
Also where's your on cycle anti estrogen? Want bitch tits? Every cycle needs and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) ...This is y I think you need to do more research...
And this is coming from someone who is almost 21 and is natty...I think you need to wait. But I applaud you for not being a disrespectful shit like most that we tell they are too young lol.

 

[dean888]

I did kind of want a first hand experience for someone who cycles. All of my friends are testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) or Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) (Same thing I know) and they are in the early 20s. Natural bodybuilding is also another way of saying only cycle in offseason though, well the pro "natural" athletes at least.

 

[frank.tb]

First hand users will tell you the same thing bro...
Just read through all these posts where 20 yr olds ask about cycling...I've even asked about it a few months ago...weather I cycle or not does not change the fact you have lots more to learn bro...
Best of luck to you