Finally feelling awesome!

[JKB]

I've been with maximus for about 2 months now and am finally feeling compeletely dialed in since about a week ago. I am feeling better and better every day to a point this is the best I have ever felt and it still gets better the next day. I dont know even where to start from my digestion, immune system, mental health to all I wanna do is Zomma Zoom Zoom Zoom and Boom Boom.

Getting great complements from my family and frieinds also about my looks. My buddy at the gym actually made a comment that I had the body and strength of a 10 year old girl before testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and now like a real man.

On the process to getting dialed in I did get very impatient and bothered Chip alot. I should've realized that it takes time to get dialed in and doesnt happen over night. Just wanted to share with my friends here. I also think great advise about supplements from CJW helped me feel better too. I know for a fact testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) wouldnt be this great with out you guys.

 

[cjw2021]

keep shbg down and e2 down and monitor your adrenal function including dhea/cortisol/aldosterone...possibly look into adding armor thyroid 30mg a day in any event. That's the key to success here. it is a pleasure helping guys with open minds. also gaba and mag/pot arg/orth combo supps are very useful to keeping stress down.

i take 30-40 mg(10 at a time) of hydrocortisone daily since im adrenal insufficient as well as fludrocortisone once and dhea spray 12.5mg 2 sprays in the AM and 2 sprays around 2pm. and 30mg armor thyroid a day. I get this through my main doc of course.

 

[JOWS6]

When did you notice the rise in libido?

 

[DeusMalo]

My wife and I both have major adrenal fatigue - hydrocortisone has done wonders. I take 20mg spread throughout the day. IMO, adrenal fatigue is worse than low test so agree with cjw make sure you monitor.

 

[cjw2021]

deus you will benefit greatly from dhea spray 2 sprays twice a day. im sure u can attest that excessive sex burns out the adrenals. 20mg of hc does nothin for me spread across the day I need double that...but my case is worse than yours. watch your aldosterone too. my electrolyte levels were in range but aldosterone was low.

 

[DeusMalo]

Couldn't find spray easily so ordered sublingual based on your DHEA posting - thanked u for the great advice.

Interesting, my wife and I both have absolute 0 cortisol readings all day - adrenals completely shut down production... how does it get worse than that? Most docs we've seen on it comment that is very rare. Also, we have never met a doc who will write for more than 20mg cortef/day... They are very careful to caution on taking more. Any research I've done seems to underscore this with a few exceptions of course. but it's been years since I've really looked into it much.

We have never shared the same doctor and have seen GPs, endos, and bioidentical specialists across 4 different states (yeah, my job moves us a lot). My guess is a total of 9 or 10 doctors between the 2 of us over the years so I have to assume there is something to what they're telling us... Love to learn more cuz my wife can prob use more than 20mg. Me, the Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) has really helped.

 

[DeusMalo]

Sorry, just realized I took this thread sideways... JKB, that's awesome! Took me just over two months to really feel it... Now I'm about tweaking.

 

[JKB]

JOWS6 - I noticed an actual rise in libido just about 7 to 10 days ago. First when I started testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) I was looking too much into this and getting too paranoid and thats why I kept bothering chip. But really it just took some patience and fine tweaking my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dosage by try and error but I realized that you have to give it time and try for at least 2 weeks before you can tell. Upping my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) dosage really helped my libido though.

DEUS and CJW - No worries about taking this thread sideways. I love learning all this from you guys. I am actually gonna get my cortisol and aldosterone levels checked also look into armor thyroid. BTW what brand pregnenolone do you buy? I will try to get the same


I already use the mag/pot from country life and arg/orth vit-shoppe brand (same brands as CJW recommended). They provide great pumps and energy for me. I've only been using DHEA for the last 3 days since sunday and One thing I have already noticed from it is that I am not getting tired and fatigued after my work outs when I went to work out monday and yesterday. Before that like last week, I would get very tired and wanting to take a nap after my work outs so I am guessing it must be the DHEA that is making me feel so awesome even after work outs now.

 

[cjw2021]

yes it is the spray dhea giving you energy...very potent shit. stopped my hypoglycemia and gave me huge energy. congrats jkb...just keep an eye on aldosterone and cortisol levels. if you benefit that much from dhea, those hormones which come from the same adrenal cortex may also be deficient.

 

[JKB]

yes it is the spray dhea giving you energy...very potent shit. stopped my hypoglycemia and gave me huge energy. congrats jkb...just keep an eye on aldosterone and cortisol levels. if you benefit that much from dhea, those hormones which come from the same adrenal cortex may also be deficient.

Is there a cheaper way of getting the adrenal, aldosterone and cortisol levels checked or is going thru my doc the only way??

 

[bodyofageekgod]

I don't want to hijack the thread but JKD you said your libido finally improved when you increased your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) dose. What amount are you taking.

 

[JKB]

I don't want to hijack the thread but JKD you said your libido finally improved when you increased your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) dose. What amount are you taking.

Like a said above bro dont worry about hijaking the thread. Its what I start them for so we can converse and learn.
I am taking 500iu twice a week so its 1000iu weekly. Now many might disagree with this dosage and say its too much. But I tried even at 350iu twice a week so 700 weekly for a while and my sex drive was there but I had a problem holding an erection sometimes and just couldnt get an erection sometimes when I wanted. So I didnt feel my libido was as high as I desired for it. So after that I upped to 500 twice a week and am very satisfied with my libido and the sex is awesome dude. Like I said many might say that my dosage is too high but I have not experienced any negative estrogen side affects as of yet and even if my estro is high, the bottom line is that this is the best I've ever felt. And for me it was all try and error. I actually started with 250iu e5d and that might be a perfect dosasge for many but everyone here is different.
Many times also after reading on these boards, I would get paranoid and think that my estro was high or I crashed it when it really wasnt anything. I was just looking too much into this so watch out from that also guys. Hope this helps!!

 

[cjw2021]

possible reasons for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) helping your libido include high shbg, high estrogen or crashed estrogen, and possibly adrenal fatigue as the testicles i think make a little pregnenolone. lh may act on other parts of the body too who knows. in any event the dhea twice a day and preg once a day should help libido even more. my libido sure as hell doesn't require Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) though I use it so my nuts don't shrink into my chest. I add in gaba, acetyl-l-tyrosine, and macuna pruriens and feel pretty great if im low on neurotransmitters. u may not be though.

 

[JKB]

possible reasons for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) helping your libido include high shbg, high estrogen or crashed estrogen, and possibly adrenal fatigue as the testicles i think make a little pregnenolone. lh may act on other parts of the body too who knows. in any event the dhea twice a day and preg once a day should help libido even more. my libido sure as hell doesn't require Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) though I use it so my nuts don't shrink into my chest. I add in gaba, acetyl-l-tyrosine, and macuna pruriens and feel pretty great if im low on neurotransmitters. u may not be though.

CJW any recomendations bro. I mean I would love to get by with less Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) like 700iu per week but at that dosage even my nuts didint shrink but they werent hangin either like they are at 1000iu per week. I am doing the DHEA 2 sprays only once a day in the morning. Should I do twice a day like you stated above cuz I do think I suffer from adrenal fatigue cuz the DHEA had completely made a huge differnece. My SHBG I dont think was too high. It was at 24 but I think it will lower itself after getting my estro dialed in.

 

[cjw2021]

yeah id do it twice a day. maybe one spray at 2pm or something as needed. too many sprays seems to give heart palps. lol

the low cortisol symptoms are basically having no ability to handle stress.

 

[Pumpedd]

yeah id do it twice a day. maybe one spray at 2pm or something as needed. too many sprays seems to give heart palps. lol

the low cortisol symptoms are basically having no ability to handle stress.

Another rookie question, sorry about this.
Why does too much DHEA give one heart palps? Thanks

 

[JKB]

Another rookie question, sorry about this.
Why does too much DHEA give one heart palps? Thanks

The sublingual DHEA gets in your blood stream and starts working right away. It gives you much energy and if you take too much at one time or should I say overdose at one time your heart will start racing. Thats why you would split it between two doses. I guess its kind of like taking too much caffeine at one time but DHEA is compeletely different from caffeine.