First Cycle Advice

[OzGills]

Hi,

Having never done a cycle before, I thought I’d better get some clear advice on how to proceed down this new road.

A bit about me: I’m 37 (male), have been training pretty consistently now for 20years. I only took herbal and mineral sups occasionally during that time. My natural body weight is about 92kgs (202pounds), and depending on the type of training this can go up to 100kgs (220pounds) or down to 88kgs (193pounds).

My training program went a bit crazy (intensity wise) a few years ago, and I worked my way up to squatting 5x20kg plates each side (440pounds) for 6-8 reps (depending on how mentally prepared I was).

I wanted to take a cycle of Deca to help recover from training at this level, and I heard that Deca is considered a “repairer” (don’t know if this is true or not). But after reading some articles on this forum, that doesn’t seem very wise. So, when should you take Deca?

Weight gains and strength gains are not my primary objective as I can achieve these naturally, but I’d like to continue training at this level but don’t think I can without ‘assistance’.

For this I was thinking Primo Depot and Bold (equi), then Deca at a later date (I’d really appreciate some guidance on this).

Also (like Ozzygaza said), anyone here (in Aust) that you talk to, has no idea what post cycle therapy (pct) is, it’s unbelievable!!! Guys are taking all types of stacks but with no knowledge of post cycle therapy (pct). I don’t get it.

Sorry about being a bit long winded, but I like to be cautious.

Thanks.

 

[Mars1960]

It's very wise to be cautious, to many young guns out there taking god knows what because their mates said it;s good stuff man.
You seem like you have plenty of common sense and wish to research everything thoroughly.
However if weight gain and strength are not you're concerns then why feel the need to take steroids?
Iv;e read you're post a couple of times and you say you want to use them to continuing training at the level you are.
IMHO, at you're age have you considered opting for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), wether it be self administered or through a doc?
I think this may be you're best approach and will give you what you are looking for.

 

[lilguy32]

Your first cycle should be test alone. If you get a good result and don't have any adverse side effects, post cycle therapy (pct) and take a few months off. Then on your next cycle you can add some Deca if you want. Never use Deca by itself unless you don't want your d**k to work.

 

[OzGills]

Thanks for the input guys.
Stupid question: I know what testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) means, but what it is exactly (Test C, Test E????).

I definitely want to keep my “ol fella” working for as long as I can!!!

 

[juced_porkchop]

research on steroind for along time me friend. atleast 6 months.
if you dont know that testE or testC are thats scares me.
read up on a bunch of them.


also never run deca with out test. most have issues if they do that.

testE 500mg ew wk1-12
PCT wk14-18

do a search on PCT

 

[OzGills]

(there maybe a little misunderstanding here)
I’ve done a fair bit of research and reading about steroids, blockers, PCTs so I’m pretty up to par with AAS profiles and uses and coming off.
Test E and Test C have an Andro Index of 100, I was looking for something a bit milder like Boldenone (andro index 50) or Methenolone enanthate (andro index 44-57). My reason for this is I put on muscle mass quite quickly naturally, so I’m not after a “builder”, but considering my age and training routine I think I need a “repairer” to get the best out of my program.

But I’m new to steroids (having never used them before), that’s why I’m here seeking advice (reading about it and doing it are very different).

 

[brolickant]

Test C= Testaserone Cypionate
Test E=Testaserone Enanthate

 

[Biggin]

Regardless if u run Deca or Eq u need to run Test. If u dont ur sex life will probably go straight down the drain. All steriods are derived from Testosterone!!! I do not advise u run Deca or whatever without test. Running Deca or Eq Will have an IMPACT ON YOUR NATURAL TESTOSTERONE LEVELS!!!!!!!! You say u have done quite a bit of research on aas I know u need to research a little more. Seriously.

 

[juced_porkchop]

then maybe a lower dosed cycle:

anavar 50mg ed wk1-10 *if $ isnt an issue*
TestE 250mg ew wk1-14
deca 200mg ew wk1-12
PCT 1-2 weeks after last testE shot.

 

[Biggin]

Agree!!!!