First cycle basic advice thanks

[Nyce0]

28 yr
198 lb
13% bf
Currently about 3200 cal (mite reduce to 27-2800)
Pro 320 carb 320 fat 70 ( if I drop my cals then I'll adjust macros ,most likely gonna lower my carbs

Test cyp 400mg Tues200mg /Fri 200mg - 15 week cycle
I have arimidex for AI
Clomid and HCG for pct
Also have Clen

I have done my research for awhile before jumping on the cycle but it's easier to ask your own question and get your own answer, I pinned for the 3rd time yesterday running a 15 week cycle my idea is test 15 weeks , then HCG a week after last pin for 7 days then nothing for 4 days then clomid on the 18 day after last pin ... I no 400mg test cyp is pretty lite so I'm not to worried about gyno but just in case at first sign .5mg eod until symptoms go away...should I use clomid at first sign of gyno aswell? I'm also going to be drinking 1-2 gallons of water to try to avoid water retention along with dandelion root if the water retention gets bad .can I run clen on cycle or wait till after cycle and if so can i use clen while on pct or after? I no the best dossing for clen is 2weeks on 2weeks off for 6-10 weeks.. should I just run 1mg of arimidex 1x a week from start to finish to knock my estrogen down abit every week to avoid gyno altogether

Any advice would be great

 

[fitguy22]

you should take ai from day one, trust me its better to be safe then sorry. start with 0.25mg eod , you will know when you need to up the dosage.
HCg; use it during the cycle, it won't help much as pct.
add clomid to your nolva as they both work great together to get your boys running

 

[Gainjin260]

^^^good advice^^^

What are your goals and height?

I wouldn't lower calories while on cycle. Take advantage of the test's ability to help with protein synthesis, eat up while on cycle then drop the calories and run the clen after PCT.

 

[Nyce0]

Yea I think I'm gonna run the AI just to be safe .. but if I run hcg on cycle it'll keep my testies running the whole time , do I really want my body producing test while I'm forcing test into it? Wont that increase my test levels even more and make gyno more likely?

 

[Nyce0]

Iam 5'10" trying to increase my mass ,thicker, wider I'm not worried about the scale more so how my body actually looks ...I was gonna drop the carbs and keep the cals at 3200 because I don't want to store any extra fat from the high carbs along with the water retention , but then again it's only 400mg so I'm not to worried about side effects but you never no

 

[Nyce0]

you should take ai from day one, trust me its better to be safe then sorry. start with 0.25mg eod , you will know when you need to up the dosage.
HCg; use it during the cycle, it won't help much as pct.
add clomid to your nolva as they both work great together to get your boys running

Yea I think iam gonna run AI eod on cycle just to be safe.. but as far as hcg on cycle do I really want my testies producing test while iam forcing test into my body I mean I no its only a 400mg a week cycle but the more test the higher the chance of gyno right

 

[Davo66]

This sounds identical to the cycle I am about to start but I will be taking enanthate at 500mg per week. Would love to hear how this cycle goes for you!

 

[Gainjin260]

Water retention leaves when you're off cycle. While on it can be a good thing to an extent.

You're already pretty lean, I wouldn't drop the carbs, but if you do, try a targeted keto diet. I did a modified one where I ate all protein and fat except for my first post workout meal, which I included rice or oatmeal. However, I started much higher bf than you and my strength, stamina and gains would have been better with more carbs. My sole purpose was cutting though.

Good luck, kudos for doing your research. Good luck.

 

[Gainjin260]

Yea I think I'm gonna run the AI just to be safe .. but if I run hcg on cycle it'll keep my testies running the whole time , do I really want my body producing test while I'm forcing test into it? Wont that increase my test levels even more and make gyno more likely?

No, not at all. Doesn't work like that. It won't raise your test levels above what you get from the needle, just keeps your boys *barely* functioning rather than shut down.

 

[Nyce0]

This sounds identical to the cycle I am about to start but I will be taking enanthate at 500mg per week. Would love to hear how this cycle goes for you!

Hopefully it goes well it's just a simple cycle but I'll give an update half way through

 

[Nyce0]

No, not at all. Doesn't work like that. It won't raise your test levels above what you get from the needle, just keeps your boys *barely* functioning rather than shut down.

Ok so 500iu a week on cycle at 250/250 Mon/Thurs? And how long after my cycle should I run it ? All the way up to 4 days before my clomid?

 

[Gainjin260]

Read the stickies on the main forum. I'm in TRT and thus do not run a pct and stay on hcg all the time.

 

[Milton]

Read the stickies on the main forum. I'm in TRT and thus do not run a pct and stay on hcg all the time.

Hows that working out for you so far?

 

[jhribar1]

Hows that working out for you so far?

Is it safe to stop taking testosterone propionate after day 1? I have injected only once 100mg but I didn,t know I also need hcg on cycle plus AI, what kind of troubles can I expect? Did the boys already shut off?

Problem is that at the moment I don,t have any PCT at me beacuse I was thinking of buying later but I didn,t know you also have to run HCG plus AI on cycle.

Will I gain any muscles or loss bodyfat if I eat the same as always, food with more protein, about 3000 kcal a day?




thanks for info

 

[blakey]

Is it safe to stop taking testosterone propionate after day 1? I have injected only once 100mg but I didn,t know I also need hcg on cycle plus AI, what kind of troubles can I expect? Did the boys already shut off?

Problem is that at the moment I don,t have any PCT at me beacuse I was thinking of buying later but I didn,t know you also have to run HCG plus AI on cycle.

Will I gain any muscles or loss bodyfat if I eat the same as always, food with more protein, about 3000 kcal a day?




thanks for info

Start your own thread bro
1 shot is fine just stop and start again when you get all your stuff sorted first before your cycle starts in saying that not everybody runs hcg its up to you I don't and lots of people run successful cycles without it but its your body

 

[jhribar1]

ok thanks for info