First Cycle Critique and Concerns

[TCoB]

Hi everyone, will be starting my first cycle soon and would appreciate some critiquing.

Height: 6'2"
Weight: 199 lbs (all weight in lbs)
Body Fat: Hover around 10-12%
Age: 23
Cycle Goal: Put on mass while maintaining naturally lean physique. Also, determine body's tolerance to AAS.
Lifting Experience: 6 years serious training. I competed in powerlifting and o-lifting in college and my lifts right now are as follows: Bench - 300 x 5 (with good spot from roommate) Squat - 325 x 5 Deadlift - 345 x 5 Push Press - 205 x 5 Barbell Row (from bench) 300 x 5. I know the squat and deadlift seem like a joke compared to the other three; I like to blame it on being tall and having a long ways to go / huge leveraging.

Here is what I have planned for my first cycle - with a few changes.

imgur.com/SoMaC9r

*Note: After reading how estrogen is necessary to put on bulk, i'll be dropping the arimidex ED to E3D. The rest I've been told is pretty solid - there seems to be a 50/50 split between people who think the Winstrol (winny) with milk thistle is perfect and others who think the Winstrol (winny) should be avoided due to joint pain. Some have suggested masteron in place of the Winstrol (winny), or EQ. Thoughts?

I am a little foggy on some of the hardware routines too. Mainly with ampules. After opening an ampule, what is the best way to store all of it? Would it be best to draw into all the syringes and just store those (as the amp obviously isnt resealable)?

Another concern - I'm very acne prone. I've been on accutane but still get noticeable breakouts if i'm not on my game 100%, even small discrepancies like eating a little sugary cereal makes me break out. I keep my skin nicely maintained, but with hormone changes this will obviously be a concern. Thoughts?

Its going to be a while before I begin because I still want to get all of the knowledge I can, and this is the perfect place to start. Thanks in advance.

*EDIT: I'm unsure why the imgur link isnt hyperlinked. If its a pain heres what my cycle is: 12 weeks of cyp - 500mg/week. Winstrol 50mg EOD weeks 7-12. Weeks 13-15 off. Nolvadex 40mg ED weeks 16-17. Nolvadex 20mg ED weeks 18-19. Thanks.

 

[SolomonGrundy]

Use the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) Ed to keep free test high and not converting to estrogen, and blood presure spikes
no Winstrol (winny) first time.

Amps are single dose, pop one each pin twice a week

 

[TCoB]

cant beleive i didnt realize amps were single doses. thanks for pointing that out. thoughts on the cycle sans-winny?

 

[SolomonGrundy]

cant beleive i didnt realize amps were single doses. thanks for pointing that out. thoughts on the cycle sans-winny?

Yup,only one compound on the first go around to understand how you react ,plus I always find it hard to believe fist timers can actual pin EOD lol just wait , you will see

 

[unknown21]

You wont want to pin EOD on your first cycle trust me lol .

 

[Vino 1]

I've actually come to like pinning. LOL that may be kinda throwed off I guess. Yea I would stick to Test E so u only have to pin twice a week for now

 

[Roush]

I've actually come to like pinning.

Lol.. On the days I don't pin, I feel like the day somehow is incomplete or has no meaning, lol.
Just ordered more b vitamins to inject, just so I have something to pin

 

[Vino 1]

Lol.. On the days I don't pin, I feel like the day somehow is incomplete or has no meaning, lol.
Just ordered more b vitamins to inject, just so I have something to pin

Hahahajaaa now that's throwed off... But seriously I've been thinking about b-12 injects to help my appetite. Been wondering if its worth it

 

[Nightmare007]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...nners-guide-your-first-cycle.html#post3234356

Read it

 

[TCoB]

wait I'm not sure where everyone got the idea I'd be pinning EOD. The cyp is only twice a week and the Winstrol (winny) was gonna be orals. I probably should have made that clear sorry.

thanks for the read nightmare. could you explain a little more what some of those compounds are? i know about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and i've heard for a first cycle it isnt completely necessary. Are clomid and nolva both necessary for first cycle post cycle therapy (pct) also? I hope this doesn't come off as arrogant I'm just asking because of the mixed opinions i've heard. I truly appreciate the guidance!

 

[3rdinfintry]

Masteron over Winstrol (winny) every time..

 

[bigkit34]

wait I'm not sure where everyone got the idea I'd be pinning EOD. The cyp is only twice a week and the Winstrol (winny) was gonna be orals. I probably should have made that clear sorry.

thanks for the read nightmare. could you explain a little more what some of those compounds are? i know about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and i've heard for a first cycle it isnt completely necessary. Are clomid and nolva both necessary for first cycle post cycle therapy (pct) also? I hope this doesn't come off as arrogant I'm just asking because of the mixed opinions i've heard. I truly appreciate the guidance!

clomid and nolva both work in different ways so when used together most people bounce back better. i use both for post cycle therapy (pct) and recommend for others to especially newer guys

 

[TCoB]

After taking everyone's advice here is what I have edited my cycle into. Let me know what you guys think.

imgur.com/tgTDKIT

Can anyone else chime in on hCg throughout the cycle? I've read that it can further suppress your gonads so it isnt ideal during cycle. Any more information on the necessity of hCg with this cycle would be greatly appreciated.

I keep hearing to add masteron to this cycle. I know many people don't condone doing more than one compound on a first cycle, but what would be the safe way of adding this in?

Thanks in advance and for the help thus far guys.

 

[Nightmare007]

wait I'm not sure where everyone got the idea I'd be pinning EOD. The cyp is only twice a week and the Winstrol (winny) was gonna be orals. I probably should have made that clear sorry.

thanks for the read nightmare. could you explain a little more what some of those compounds are? i know about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and i've heard for a first cycle it isnt completely necessary. Are clomid and nolva both necessary for first cycle post cycle therapy (pct) also? I hope this doesn't come off as arrogant I'm just asking because of the mixed opinions i've heard. I truly appreciate the guidance!

Hcg-it mimics your bodies LH function therefore preventing testecular atrophy
Clomafene citrate or clomid-it attaches to the estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus Makin the estrogen present inactive and forcing to body to Produce more by producing more testosterone
Nolvadex or tamoxifen citrate - same as above


And to use both these compounds are a good idea I saw better safe than sorry

 

[Nightmare007]

If its your first cycle just go with test keep the masteron for your next cycle

 

[TCoB]

thanks for all of the info everyone. what kind of strength / size gains should i expect on this? i need to edit my original info i actually over-estimated on my BF%, i run around 8% naturally with my diet and training and naturally lean physique.