First cycle: D-BOL and Test-Eth

[Pitbull55]

Hey guys,

New to the forum. I'm 23 years old, just under 5'9, 218lbs, never track my bodyfat just go by how my abs look (my guide is I should be able to see the top 4). Personal best on the big 3 are Bench: 345, Squat 475 and Deadlift 585. Just gonna post my cycle and if there are any vets here that would lke to weigh-in with some advice I would really appreciate it.

Test-Eth: 10-12 Weeks - 500 mg/week (250mg Monday Lunch and Thursday Night)
D-Bol: Weeks 1-4 - 30mg ED (Gonna run organ shield and hawthorne berries with this)
HCG: Weeks 3-12 - 250IUs E4D and in between my last shot and start of my post cycle therapy (pct) gonna blast the HCG, have to figure out the IUs for this, I've read 500 IUs EOD until start of post cycle therapy (pct) but if someone has a better suggestion by all means feel free to tell me.
AI: Aromasin 12.5mg EOD but will adjust accordingly if gyno becomes more of an issue. Gonna taper off my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) between my last shot and the start of my post cycle therapy (pct). Have letro on hand in case gyno becomes very seroious but this is a last case scenario.

post cycle therapy (pct):
Nolva: 80mg First day then 40/40/20/20/20/20
Clom: 100 mg first day then 50/50/25/25
Con-Cret, Natural Test Booster, ZMA.

Any feedback greatly appreciated!

Cheers

 

[VengeanceX7]

Run your test for 12 weeks. Run the Dbol at 50mg ed especially since you are taking a few liver supports. Your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle is good. blast you do 500ius ed for 10 days leading up to post cycle therapy (pct) or 1000ius eod. Just stick to the normal post cycle therapy (pct) Nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 50/50/50/50 If you are gonna run anything longer that 4 weeks it should be clomid not nolva. e

 

[Pitbull55]

Run your test for 12 weeks. Run the Dbol at 50mg ed especially since you are taking a few liver supports. Your HCG during cycle is good. blast you do 500ius ed for 10 days leading up to pct or 1000ius eod. Just stick to the normal pct Nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 50/50/50/50 If you are gonna run anything longer that 4 weeks it should be clomid not nolva. e

Appreciate the feedback VengeanceX7. Would you take your last HCG shot the day before you start your PCT or a week before?

 

[Pitbull55]

Just because I've read on this forum and others, of some guys stopping the day before and other a week before.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hey guys,

New to the forum. I'm 23 years old, just under 5'9, 218lbs, never track my bodyfat just go by how my abs look (my guide is I should be able to see the top 4). Personal best on the big 3 are Bench: 345, Squat 475 and Deadlift 585. Just gonna post my cycle and if there are any vets here that would lke to weigh-in with some advice I would really appreciate it.

Test-Eth: 10-12 Weeks - 500 mg/week (250mg Monday Lunch and Thursday Night)
D-Bol: Weeks 1-4 - 30mg ED (Gonna run organ shield and hawthorne berries with this)
HCG: Weeks 3-12 - 250IUs E4D and in between my last shot and start of my post cycle therapy (pct) gonna blast the HCG, have to figure out the IUs for this, I've read 500 IUs EOD until start of post cycle therapy (pct) but if someone has a better suggestion by all means feel free to tell me.
AI: Aromasin 12.5mg EOD but will adjust accordingly if gyno becomes more of an issue. Gonna taper off my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) between my last shot and the start of my post cycle therapy (pct). Have letro on hand in case gyno becomes very seroious but this is a last case scenario.

post cycle therapy (pct):
Nolva: 80mg First day then 40/40/20/20/20/20
Clom: 100 mg first day then 50/50/25/25
Con-Cret, Natural Test Booster, ZMA.

Any feedback greatly appreciated!

Cheers

cut the post cycle therapy (pct) to 4 weeks, 5 at most.
run cycle for 12-14 weeks no less then 12, i rec 14.
I rec the HCG at the tail end of cycle the last 4-5 weeks leading upto but NOT into post cycle therapy (pct), at 500iu 2X a week.

rest looks good.
con-cret seems like BS, i looked into it in passed, if you didnt buy it yet, just get bulk creatine mono.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Appreciate the feedback VengeanceX7. Would you take your last HCG shot the day before you start your post cycle therapy (pct) or a week before?

id say 3-5 days after hcg start post cycle therapy (pct).

 

[juced_porkchop]

Just because I've read on this forum and others, of some guys stopping the day before and other a week before.

both will "work" but i feel you should give it a few days.

 

[juced_porkchop]

WOW i just noticed you only have 3 posts>?!?! and you seem to knwo what you are doing!! I love it!
Welcome to the forum!
WAY WAY to0 many people come here doing NO research, and arguing what "they where told" not wanting to listin when everyone is sayign they are wrong.... it drives me crazy.
nice to see someone did some of their OWN research before bothering us with dumb questions a google search could answer.

hope you stick around!

 

[Pitbull55]

WOW i just noticed you only have 3 posts>?!?! and you seem to knwo what you are doing!! I love it!
Welcome to the forum!
WAY WAY to0 many people come here doing NO research, and arguing what "they where told" not wanting to listin when everyone is sayign they are wrong.... it drives me crazy.
nice to see someone did some of their OWN research before bothering us with dumb questions a google search could answer.

hope you stick around!

Thanks for all the advice juiced porkchop! You're the first person to recommend running HCG that way but defintely something I wll consider, either way I'll be taking your recommendation on cutting it 3-5 days before start of post cycle therapy (pct).

Its funny you say that about way too many ppl posting the standard "FIRST CYCLE PLEASE HELP". When I started researching about 6 months ago on forums that was the number one thing I came across, people just wanting to be told what to do. Definitely did not want to be that guy, especially when (like you said ) all you have to do is type your question into google i.e. Best size needle to use for injecting aas or how to mix hcg. hahah its funny but it works

On a side note I'm gonna log my whole first cycle on this forum for any other newbs and if theres enough interest i'll post my diet and workout routine and anything else people would care to know.

Cheers

 

[Pitbull55]

cut the post cycle therapy (pct) to 4 weeks, 5 at most.
run cycle for 12-14 weeks no less then 12, i rec 14.
I rec the HCG at the tail end of cycle the last 4-5 weeks leading upto but NOT into post cycle therapy (pct), at 500iu 2X a week.

rest looks good.
con-cret seems like BS, i looked into it in passed, if you didnt buy it yet, just get bulk creatine mono.

Just a quick question juiced porkchop on your recommendation of HCG 2x a week, would I be able to take my hcg shot around the same time as my test-eth shot? Just for convenience, or is this a bad idea? Having trouble finding anything online about this.

Cheers

 

[Pitbull55]

cut the post cycle therapy (pct) to 4 weeks, 5 at most.
run cycle for 12-14 weeks no less then 12, i rec 14.
I rec the HCG at the tail end of cycle the last 4-5 weeks leading upto but NOT into post cycle therapy (pct), at 500iu 2X a week.

rest looks good.
con-cret seems like BS, i looked into it in passed, if you didnt buy it yet, just get bulk creatine mono.

And would you still do the blast at the end i.e. 500iu's everyday between you last shot and post cycle therapy (pct). Sorry for the 2nd post, its just your the first person to tell me to take hcg ONLY last 4-5 weeks of cycle. All my other research suggested just 250iu E4D/twice a week or just blast at the end. Thanks again.

 

[Pitbull55]

Just wondering if any other vets could shine some light on HCG usage from personal experience, as dosing appears to be very widespread between users. Debating between:

1) running 250iu's 2x a week from weeks 3-12 and then a blast of 500iu ED for ten days between last test shot and start of post cycle therapy (pct), stoping short of post cycle therapy (pct) by 3-5 days as recommended by juced porkchop. Problem here is that HCG begins to lose effectiveness after 30 days and at max 60 days.

2)Or also taking juiced porkchops recommendation and running for only the last 4-5 weeks of cycle at 500iu 2x a week and with the same blast at the end

3) Just blasting at the end as some users believe HCG on cycle is useless (but from my research I dont believe this and to me this would be the least favorable route).

Like I said just looking for personal advice from experienced users. Anything would be appeciated. Cheers.

On a side note I'm just over one week into my cycle. Starting weight was 216.8, now weighing 224.5. Helloooooooo D-bol hahaha