First cycle ever.... any advice?

[notbigyet]

Sorry if this is wordy.... just wanted to get as many facts in here as I could for ya....

After some acquaintances used test cypionate 400 and trenbolone 200 with great results, I decided to take the plunge and do my first "cycle" ever. I'm 43 years old, have worked out for around 20 years, 5'10" and 200 lbs, with about 25% bodyfat. When I'm "in shape" for me, I'm closer to 180 lbs. and 15% bodyfat (per my crappy home scale). I'm taking a trip in 7 weeks, and wanted the cycle to end right before I take off.

I have one 10ml bottle each (from Dynasty Labs) of "Testoline 400" (says 200 ml Testosterone Enanthate and 200 ml Testosterone Cypionate) and "Trenaline 200" (200 ml Trenbolone Enanthate).

It was recommended that I do 3/4 cc of each TWO days a week for the full seven weeks.... not to bother to gradually increase, and gradually decrease, since it was such a short time.

I did my first shots (under supervision of a very experience user, who provided all the alcohol swabs, syringes, etc.) on Tuesday around 7pm (did not work out that day) in my upper right thigh. I worked out yesterday (chest, cardio) and started to feel soreness in the thigh... the same you'd feel a couple days later, after you did 10 sets of heavy squats. Today, I could barely walk. Still, I did arms at the gym tonight, and a light 20 minutes of cardio.... which was a bitch, but I managed to fight through the tightness. Felt a little better actually, but now at just over 48 hours after my shot, I am back to feeling like I won't be able to even get out of bed tomorrow.

We're 99.9% sure we didn't hit a nerve or blood vessel (as I said, my friend guiding me is very experienced). He says it will always hurt, that's just the way it is. I'm not sure I can keep doing this then... no way I can not walk every day for the next 7 weeks!

One of the guys I know that was doing the same stuff I just started, said the tren was causing him the same pain, and he just stopped taking it. He is just taking the test now and everything is fine. He said others at his gym had't had the same issues.

Any help?

Thanks all!

 

[1badmofo]

sometimes the first shots are the worst. These are long ester steroids not well suited to a 7 week cycle IMO. Honestly, if you are 25% bf, you'd be better off on a hard core diet. 7 weeks you could lose probably 20 pounds if you got serious. Also, keep in mind you will need to be running your post cycle therapy (pct) during your trip and some guys have sexual issues with tren and during post cycle therapy (pct)

 

[notbigyet]

Thanks for the reply... I'm merely guessing at the BF %.... it's what my cheapy bathroom scale says. Some days it will say 18, other days 27, so I just ballparked it.

I'm in decent shape. I'd like to add more muscle, and lose some of the extra fat I'm carrying (who wouldn't, right?)

Nobody has ever mentioned any PCT.... what would you recommend, assuming I can make it the full 7 weeks?

Thanks again!

 

[valiantmiller16]

sometimes the first shots are the worst. These are long ester steroids not well suited to a 7 week cycle IMO. Honestly, if you are 25% bf, you'd be better off on a hard core diet. 7 weeks you could lose probably 20 pounds if you got serious. Also, keep in mind you will need to be running your post cycle therapy (pct) during your trip and some guys have sexual issues with tren and during post cycle therapy (pct)

i agree with this at 25% bodyfat i'm not trying to have a dig but thats just lazy mate atleast try and get your bodyfat down with proper diet and cardio before going on cycle, also this whole thing doesn't seem well planned at all 7 weeks? and your running tren and test?!?!?! i would stop the whole thing immediately and put in some time to research the chemicals your using and post cycle therapy (pct) whilst getting your bodyfat down.

 

[1badmofo]

I was afraid nobody mentioned it to you. post cycle therapy (pct) is Post Cycle Therapy. You are going to shut your nuts off while on cycle, you need to do post cycle therapy (pct) to get back up to speed and keep your gains. You can use Nolva, Clomid, or Toremifene citrate for post cycle therapy (pct). All these can be purchased from our sponsor RUI.

 

[Pump4Life]

I believe that 25 is your BMI (body mass index), not your body fat percentage. That is what home scales measure.

 

[notbigyet]

No, it's the BF %.... as best as a $40 scale will do. It fluctuates throughout the day and depending on how hydrated I am. My bodyweight doesn't fluctuate 40 lbs. in one day.

 

[notbigyet]

I was afraid nobody mentioned it to you. post cycle therapy (pct) is Post Cycle Therapy. You are going to shut your nuts off while on cycle, you need to do post cycle therapy (pct) to get back up to speed and keep your gains. You can use Nolva, Clomid, or Toremifene citrate for post cycle therapy (pct). All these can be purchased from our sponsor RUI.

1bad - thanks! I had found "post cycle therapy (pct)" on the forum, and I'll admit nobody had mentioned anything about that to me before.

UPDATE: The leg feels much better this morning. Still a little tight, but definitely getting better, so I think I'll be fine by tomorrow at some point.

I'm going to check out the RUI sponsor and get some input from the blokes I know that are experienced with all this.

I appreciate all the advice so far. I probably was way off in my BF% in my original post. I'm hardly lazy, and usually adhere to a fairly strict diet. I rarely drink, and work out ~ 5-6 days a week. I'm in pretty good shape... just not ripped like I wish to be. I work a full time job and have been trying to start a company for the past year or so.... making my average work week 80-100 hours. That is probably what's taken the biggest toll on me this past year... exhausted most of the time. I've made a commitment to ease up on all the work, and dedicate the next 7 weeks to getting into the best shape of my life.... at 43.

Thanks again everyone. This site is awesome!

 

[Teutonic]

As indicted by 1 badmofo..you got long ester compounds..the test will be 2.5 to 4 weeks to FEEL it imo...
Tren is somewhat quicker and if you have a upcoming trip..pleasure I assume..I d drop the tren..it has it s own litlle potential nasty side s..
How long is your trip ? I ask cuz if it s for 1-2 weeks you could run test up to the day you leave..start post cycle therapy (pct) upon return ??

 

[notbigyet]

As indicted by 1 badmofo..you got long ester compounds..the test will be 2.5 to 4 weeks to FEEL it imo...
Tren is somewhat quicker and if you have a upcoming trip..pleasure I assume..I d drop the tren..it has it s own litlle potential nasty side s..
How long is your trip ? I ask cuz if it s for 1-2 weeks you could run test up to the day you leave..start pct upon return ??

Thanks.... The trip is 7 days, from 7/27 to 8/2. So you think I should just do the test only? Will the tren stay "fresh" if I just leave it in the fridge where it is? Maybe save it for a future cycle? Or is it toast now that the seal has been broken so to speak?

 

[tootie]

Youre gonna love that test400 and tren200. dynasty ftw

 

[Teutonic]

Test cypionate is the longest ester I believe and if your only gonna miss 1 week and don t plan on getting totally hammered constantly while away..you could take a shot the day you leave..get more of it or ANY test and run it with the tren upon return with say test propionate for weeks 9-12 or 9-16. ??
The tren is fine it ll keep for a long time if kept cool and out of light...post cycle therapy (pct) post cycle therapy (pct) post cycle therapy (pct)

 

[notbigyet]

Thanks guys. I showed the thread to my friend that is highly experienced with this stuff. He agreed, I'm not close to 25% BF and my scale is crap. (to me).

He agreed with many of the posts, but thinks it's probably fine to continue with what I was on, and that the pain will generally be there in the thighs, but will ease off a bit as I get used to it... similar to the soreness one feels when first working out, but goes away eventually.

Next shot is tomorrow.... I'll keep y'all posted.

Thanks again everyone.

 

[Steroidologist]

pretty experienced friends? not mentioning a post cycle and 7 week cycle? the trens long enough but at least 10 weeks on the test the seventh week is when test peaks

 

[notbigyet]

The friend that helped me with my first shot is the very experienced one. The guy I got my stuff from was a middleman that has friends that take this stuff as well.

My experienced friend mentioned all the stuff said in this thread, but he has not been "in the loop" with my discussions until pretty much the day I took the shot.

He's also mentioned, that I'll probably peak about 2-3 weeks after I get back from my trip... which is fine. I can't turn back the clock and take my first shot 3 weeks ago. But I have no problem with looking great when I'm home anyway.