First cycle.... HCG necessary?

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i2icho84

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As title suggests. I'm in week 2 of my first cycle 500mg test C with 40 dbol ed 4-6 weeks.
Im planning on getting some HCG and read its best to start around week 4 and run until end of cycle before starting PCT nolva/clomid.

Couple of questions. Do i really need to run HCG first cycle. I wanted to keep things simple for my first run.

I can get my hands on HCG so this isn't a problem i just hear conflicting things about it.

If i was to start at week 4 and continue on until my last test shot do i still use nolva/clomid the same way as i was going to?

Do i keep using aromasin also past last shot and into pct?

If anyone could shed some light that would be great.

Cheers
 
First cycle or last; you need hcg.
Dbol for 2 weeks only? I dont follow...
Clomid and nolva would be taken same as any pct if u have hcg in ur cycle or dont.
You can start hcg and pin it till you start pct
 
Ok thanks.
Sorry meant to say dbol weeks 1-4 (or 6)

Im 32
5'8
71kg 8-10% BF

Been lifting 3 years mostly all compound lifts put on 10kg naturally.
Gains were becoming really slow. Est i could of gotten to my goal with time but was thinking it was going to take another 5-7 yrs. So wanted a little bit of help.
So far I'm loving everything about the cycle im feeling great.
Put on 2.5kg already in 10 days. No bloat or negative side effects to deal with yet.

Goal is 80-85kg 8-10 BF %
 
id saydont do dbol longer then 5 weeks.
sorry just reread about aromasin question, 2 things will tell you how to dose your ai when to stop; your blood test and your body.
i usually take aromasin close to my pct(2-3 days before pct i stop)
make sure you get your bloods done to see how your esto is doing.

good luck man
 
Nothing is really "Necessary" . fuk you don't really need a dick and balls either do you , they are not 'necessary'' to live right.

point is , things may not be "necessary" but they sure as hell can be a useful tool to make "OPTIMAL" . don't think about what is just necessary , think about what is going to be the best fucking most "optimal" thing to do


just my thought :) i wouldn't skimp*


* ie., for guys that plan on running a pct
 
I would highly suggest you use the hCG, 250iu twice a week subq works great for most... including myself but some use a higher dose like 500iu twice a week. I can't tell any difference between 500iu weekly or 1000iu so I stay with 500.

I use it as part of my TRT regime and it helps me feel better mentally, this is because the pseudo LH signal keeps progesterone and DHEA going. It also helps recovery by helping stimulates the gonads making it easier for your body to restart. You can run it up to the day before you start PCT but not during PCT as it's suppressive in its own way. This is also more effective then the blast at end of cycle method.
 
D-bol is kinda strong for a first cycle.I would use something less side effects if you dont want to take HCG.you can run test only,but using it with D-bol then you need a more strenous PCT.
 
Roush said:
Nothing is really "Necessary" . fuk you don't really need a dick and balls either do you , they are not 'necessary'' to live right.

point is , things may not be "necessary" but they sure as hell can be a useful tool to make "OPTIMAL" . don't think about what is just necessary , think about what is going to be the best fucking most "optimal" thing to do


just my thought :) i wouldn't skimp*


* ie., for guys that plan on running a pct
Click to expand...

Haha love this! You make some good points!
 
Roush said:
Nothing is really "Necessary" . fuk you don't really need a dick and balls either do you , they are not 'necessary'' to live right.

point is , things may not be "necessary" but they sure as hell can be a useful tool to make "OPTIMAL" . don't think about what is just necessary , think about what is going to be the best fucking most "optimal" thing to do


just my thought :) i wouldn't skimp*


* ie., for guys that plan on running a pct
Click to expand...

exactly !!!...

you dont need to run HCG but you should want to do it bcos you do it for yourself
 
Couldn't agree more.... haven't been on here for a while but 4 cycles in tells me that HCG is needed for all the reasons stated in medical "white papers"... (won't bore anyone with the details)... and fitguy22 is right in suggesting u can start with ur hcg pins right away or further along depending on the mix of ur esters.....

The question I now have is where do u get ur hcg?... my lab is out!!!!
 
Roush said:
Nothing is really "Necessary" . fuk you don't really need a dick and balls either do you , they are not 'necessary'' to live right.

point is , things may not be "necessary" but they sure as hell can be a useful tool to make "OPTIMAL" . don't think about what is just necessary , think about what is going to be the best fucking most "optimal" thing to do


just my thought :) i wouldn't skimp*


* ie., for guys that plan on running a pct
Click to expand...

Of all people hahhaha yea man you absolutley need your dick and balls are you fuckin high?!
 
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