first cycle help

fjm1990

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I have a friend ( honestly this is about someone else ) whom started his first cycle normally with test at 500 mg per week , hes now over 12 weeks on and hes throwing multiple compounds in like d bol and deca and has recently upped the test to 1000 mg per week , ive told him hes a fool and im worried about it , what is going to happen to him is my question so I can warn him
 
Well taking any steroids at all poses a risk, even half a gram (albeit fairly limited risk).

All he's doing is increasing his gains by increasing the risks (though it sounds unlikely that he's weighed this up sensibly).

He might be fine - lots of people run monster doses for long periods with no problems and the 1-2g ballpark is far from monster. But who knows. Most people will start to get some sides with what he's using.

A main issue is what he's going to have to do next. If it's his first cycle, presumably he's not massive, and if he's already on 1g test plus deca plus dbol, presumably he's knocking on the door of 2g in total a week. If this is in a 180-200lb guy, how much is he going to have to use to get to 240/260/+, assuming that's his aim. Always, always, for the love of god, run the minimum you need to make gains. You (he) will almost always have to use more next time - so leave headroom.

Then there's recovery. If he does plan on coming off, if he hasn't figured out how to recover from a half gram cycle, he's going to struggle on higher doses.

Most likely he's just going to get some sides which may or may put him off - be it gyno, acne, crashing when trying to recover etc.

He may have evaluated the pros and cons of upping the dose and decided his goals are worth it of course.

At the end of the day, he's probably going to have to find out the hard way.
 
Who knows what will happen, nothing perhaps. He is speeding down the highway to ending up on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of his life though, if he is not experienced. And obviously he isnt. Cant fix stupid brotha.
 
Well taking any steroids at all poses a risk, even half a gram (albeit fairly limited risk).

All he's doing is increasing his gains by increasing the risks (though it sounds unlikely that he's weighed this up sensibly).

He might be fine - lots of people run monster doses for long periods with no problems and the 1-2g ballpark is far from monster. But who knows. Most people will start to get some sides with what he's using.

A main issue is what he's going to have to do next. If it's his first cycle, presumably he's not massive, and if he's already on 1g test plus deca plus dbol, presumably he's knocking on the door of 2g in total a week. If this is in a 180-200lb guy, how much is he going to have to use to get to 240/260/+, assuming that's his aim. Always, always, for the love of god, run the minimum you need to make gains. You (he) will almost always have to use more next time - so leave headroom.

Then there's recovery. If he does plan on coming off, if he hasn't figured out how to recover from a half gram cycle, he's going to struggle on higher doses.

Most likely he's just going to get some sides which may or may put him off - be it gyno, acne, crashing when trying to recover etc.

He may have evaluated the pros and cons of upping the dose and decided his goals are worth it of course.

At the end of the day, he's probably going to have to find out the hard way.

You can't become resistant to steroids. That is a myth.

I would be worried about this guys internal health. From the outside he may appear healthy, but on the inside he could have skyhigh cholesterol, a liver screaming out in agony and blood as thick as syrup. Get your friend to do some bloodwork ASAP.
 
He also won't be able to pin point which compound is causing the sides if any occur because he's running such a long cycle with multiple compounds he needs to take the gains he has and start post cycle therapy (pct). but if he is going to keep on cycle hope he gets some blood work and adjusts accordingly
 
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You can't become resistant to steroids.

I agree - I'm not saying a resistance to steroids is why you'd up the dose. I'm saying that to go from 250-260lbs generally requires more than to go from 190-200lbs. Otherwise everybody would just stay on 500mg and gain 20lbs a cycle indefinitely.
 
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