first cycle / low libido - HELP!
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one more test result:
Estradion (E2) 4.04 miU/mL (1.7-8.6)
SHGB 64.99 nmol/L (14.5-48.4) H
SHGB is high which i guess is the reason for low libido?
so should just wait and take nothing at all? a coach is telling me to take anavar to build muscle faster cuz i'm really woking hard in gym with not much results! i know i did a messed up first cycle but it's been a year now since my last cycle. how long should i wait more?
Estradion (E2) 4.04 miU/mL (1.7-8.6)
SHGB 64.99 nmol/L (14.5-48.4) H
SHGB is high which i guess is the reason for low libido?
so should just wait and take nothing at all? a coach is telling me to take anavar to build muscle faster cuz i'm really woking hard in gym with not much results! i know i did a messed up first cycle but it's been a year now since my last cycle. how long should i wait more?
Xander24
New member
SHGB is gobbling up all your free test right now. It's unlikely permanent . Stop putting shit in your body and go natty for at least 12 months. It will likely go down on it's own if you stay healthy, happy, and focused and keep your mind off var and other stuff you do not need at all. Once that goes down things should improve. You didn't recover properly, because you were not nearly educated enough and ran the cycle you ran, probably because you listened to the same guy who is now advising you to take var, cause your results suck. Fuck him. What is this? Fork in the road, dude......
Megatron28
Moderator
Neither of them should be included in PCT as they are both suppressive to the HPTA.
I've found my baseline test results, compared to my latest blood test, how shutdown am I?
11/3/2014
LH 6.79 IU/L (1.7-8.6)
FSH 2.87 IU/L (1.5-12.4)
PROLACTIN 298.1 uIU/mL (86-324)
TESTOSTERONE 20.37 nmol/l (8.64-29.0)
ESTRADIO 99.79 pmol/L (28-156)
05/25/2016
LH 3.44 IU/L (1.7-8.6)
FSH 2.32 IU/L (1.5-12.4)
PROLACTIN 149.00 uIU/ml (86-324)
TESTOSTERONE 10.80 nmol/L (8.64-29.0)
ESTRADIOL 66.75 pmol/L (28-156)
libido is still low... would you guys recommend doing a power PCT ?
11/3/2014
LH 6.79 IU/L (1.7-8.6)
FSH 2.87 IU/L (1.5-12.4)
PROLACTIN 298.1 uIU/mL (86-324)
TESTOSTERONE 20.37 nmol/l (8.64-29.0)
ESTRADIO 99.79 pmol/L (28-156)
05/25/2016
LH 3.44 IU/L (1.7-8.6)
FSH 2.32 IU/L (1.5-12.4)
PROLACTIN 149.00 uIU/ml (86-324)
TESTOSTERONE 10.80 nmol/L (8.64-29.0)
ESTRADIOL 66.75 pmol/L (28-156)
libido is still low... would you guys recommend doing a power PCT ?
Go drug free for 12 months then re asses. Im speaking from a similar experience to you, I did one cycle 6 years ago with a poorly planned pct. Ended up exactly where you are now. I am now on TRT for life, all from 1 fucking cycle.
My testosterone on TRT is less than you have now naturally - 12 months of heavy lifting & eating well you might just be OK made some improvement to me.. Any quick fixes will be temporary and you just revert to where you aae, you need to be patient.
Steroids screwed you up, more steroids are not going be the answer.
My testosterone on TRT is less than you have now naturally - 12 months of heavy lifting & eating well you might just be OK made some improvement to me.. Any quick fixes will be temporary and you just revert to where you aae, you need to be patient.
Steroids screwed you up, more steroids are not going be the answer.
shreddedmonster
New member
Hmm I am in the same boat from my last Deca cycle.
Fucker screwed my sex power badly.
your E2 levels are high as mine are also high but I m on TRT. ( fuck cycling).
Don't worry we will sort it out
Fucker screwed my sex power badly.
your E2 levels are high as mine are also high but I m on TRT. ( fuck cycling).
Don't worry we will sort it out
I went through everything you have been through. I did 1 cycle with a bad pct 7 years ago. I ended up with levels at 9nmol.. I had all the symptoms of low T. zero sex drive, depression, struggle to get out of bed some morning. It really is no joke and not a nice way to live
My levels were much lower than yours. Give your body lots of time to recover, can take years to bounce back, if at all.
The normal range is bullshit, normal for what a 21 year old athlete or an 75 year old obese man, they both fall in that normal range.
The last thing you want to do is more gear to fix the problem, they got you into the mess you are in and they unlikely to be the thing that gets you out; All they will do will hinder the long and slow natural recovery you will have to wait out
Even then there is no guarantee you'll recover, I never did but my levels were not as bad as yours, you have to give your body as much chance as you can to repair naturally.
Hi guys,
following up to my post.. last month i have done a power PCT and below my latest blood test:
07/02/2017
FSH 2.9 mIU/mL (1.5-12.4)
LH 4.98 mIU/mL (1.7-8.6)
Testosterone 17.95 nmol/L (8.64-29)
Free Testosterone 0.358 nmol/L (0.243-.571)
Estradiol 142.7 pmol/L (28-156)
SHGB 36.62 nmol/L (14.5-48.4)
PROLACTIN 287.0 uIU/mL (86-324)
Creatinine 61 umol/L (62-106) L
FT4 21.21 pmol/L (9.14-23.81)
FT3 5.91 pmol/L (2.23-7.8)
TSH 1.45 uIU/mL (0.27-5.2)
Urea 5.0 nmol/L (<8.35)
Vitamin D 45.97 ng/ml. (30-70)
Magnesium 0.82 nmol/L (0.66-1.07)
Zinc 16.0 umol/L (9.18-18.4)
What do you guys think? numbers might seem close to my baseline results, but I don't feel much difference tbh. I hardly get any morning erections and sex drive is low. could it be my estradiol level? should i try taking arimidex or aromasin to lower it? are there any side affects?
would appreciate an input. thanks!
following up to my post.. last month i have done a power PCT and below my latest blood test:
07/02/2017
FSH 2.9 mIU/mL (1.5-12.4)
LH 4.98 mIU/mL (1.7-8.6)
Testosterone 17.95 nmol/L (8.64-29)
Free Testosterone 0.358 nmol/L (0.243-.571)
Estradiol 142.7 pmol/L (28-156)
SHGB 36.62 nmol/L (14.5-48.4)
PROLACTIN 287.0 uIU/mL (86-324)
Creatinine 61 umol/L (62-106) L
FT4 21.21 pmol/L (9.14-23.81)
FT3 5.91 pmol/L (2.23-7.8)
TSH 1.45 uIU/mL (0.27-5.2)
Urea 5.0 nmol/L (<8.35)
Vitamin D 45.97 ng/ml. (30-70)
Magnesium 0.82 nmol/L (0.66-1.07)
Zinc 16.0 umol/L (9.18-18.4)
What do you guys think? numbers might seem close to my baseline results, but I don't feel much difference tbh. I hardly get any morning erections and sex drive is low. could it be my estradiol level? should i try taking arimidex or aromasin to lower it? are there any side affects?
would appreciate an input. thanks!
PortgasDAce
New member
Can be, you could try a bit of proviron
Proviron is suppressive to hpta to a degree. I wouldn't recommend using that.
oldmusclemike
New member
First give your self more time... Also don't you guys study up on Deca and 19nor steroids?? Estrogen, Progesterone and Prolactin??
With Deca this is common and it is normal to take a long time. With Deca you E2 must be controlled more closely, you will get into Progestin and then Progesterone and high Prolactin. Nothing you can do until you fully recover. The best help during the interim is Cialis and Caber. Both commonly used for these problems.
Get on Cialis and caber and fix your deficit immediately , why do you hear us talk about those so much...
how do you control Progesterone? any advise on what to do next? my levels seem within baseline but libido low.
Milton
Administrator
Eat foods that help reduce any excess estrogen in your body. By reducing your stress levels you naturally increase progesterone. Body fat produces excess estrogen which can create a hormonal imbalance.
juced_porkchop
Moderator
juced_porkchop
Moderator
Also i would rec maybe getting a CIA from rui-products for now. works well and in this case good to have to help out with erection atleast.
appleton111
New member
have you been able to control your Progesterone levels?
