First Cycle (Please Help)

[volvacore]

Hi guys,
Years lifting: 5
Age: 29
Height : 5'9
Weight : 194 lb
My weights had been hardly improving (Deadlifts, Squats, Bench) so i decided to try steroids now.

currently On a strict clean diet now to bulk up as clean as possible.
So i told my friend i needed to try something and he gave me the following:

2 bottles of Test E 250 (10ml)
1 bottle of Npp (Nandrolone phenylpropionate) (10ml)
and for pct:
1 box of (Anastrazole) 1mg per tablet (50 tablets)

1 box of Proviron 25 mg per tablet (20 tablets)
My friend has said i should try a cycle of 8 weeks starting with 500 test e weekly (sat, wed) and start the Npp somewhere in the 4th week of test e cycle, then immediately start taking the Anastrazole and proviron after i'm done with cycle...
So anyway how would u stack those together? dosage? and when to start taking the PCT provided? should i inject test e and npp together the same day ? what schedule would u recommend (i'm also planning to do all the injections in the butt)
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so I have done some search and i was thinking about:
1- Get rid of the Npp! and just stick with Test E 250 every 3 days for 10 weeks
2-Take daily Anastrazole and Proviron during the cycle before bed
2- Then After 2 weeks from my last shot i start PCT of taking Nolva and Clomid
Simple as that
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but i would appreciate any more info and recommendations like:
1- should i take AI during cycle (if so what type and how much?)
2- Do i really need HCG ?
3-What changes would u do overall?

 

[tbonexl]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

 

[Onk]

1/first cycle test e only, get rid of the Npp
Test E every 3 days is different to Test E twice a week. Think you just made a typo though.

2/ you definitely need an AI during cycle. Anastrazole is actually arimidex, an AI. Before bed, doesn't really matter
3/ You don't NEED HCG, as in, you can cycle without it. However, a large part of this community would recommend it
4/ You said Test E only but then said you'd do Prov? Why add in an oral AAS?
5/ 2 weeks post cycle is old school. Search for PCT calculator, there's a thread in the forums that will pop up and help you
6/ Get pre-cycle blood work done. You'll need that to know your base levels, to then get re-tested and see if your Test is real, if your estrogen is high, etc etc

Before embarking on this route. Can you post your diet please? That's the #1 cause of people not gaining muscle. Even if you think it's on point, humour me please as you can't be too sure!

Otherwise, welcome to Ology!

 

[volvacore]

Hi thanks for the reply

Sorry i didn't know Proviron was considered a Steroid my friend told me its supposed to be AI during cycle to protect your testicles

My Daily Diet mainly consist large amounts of Chicken , Tuna ,Beef Meat , Oatmeal ,whole Eggs , Skimmed milk , Peanut butter, Nuts ,All kinds of Vegetables i get on hand, White rice
and for Supplements : Whey protein , Multivitamins, Fish oil , BCAA , Metabolism Boosters...

 

[volvacore]

Any other recommendations and opinions would be appreciated Thanks!

 

[tbonexl]

He asked for u to post your diet not your favorite foods lol

 

[Onk]

He asked for u to post your diet not your favorite foods lol

Yep, I was more looking for:

Total Daily Calories =
Total Daily Proteins =, Carbs =, Fats=
Meal 1 = x
Meal 2 = y
Meal 3 = z
etc
etc
etc

 

[volvacore]

LMAO ok
1st Meal : 4-6 Whole Eggs , Beans, Lettuce + (Fish Oil, Multivitamins)
2nd Meal : 2 Cans of Tuna mixed with Vegetables and olive oil , 2-3 Bananas , White Rice(More on Workout days Before Training)
3rd Meal: 40 Grams of whey Protein, Nuts , fish oil
4th Meal: 3-4 Whole Eggs with vegetables or Tuna Again with Vegetables

I also eat something like Apples Between meals , BCAA (During Workout) and some HGH Booster before bedtime.

sorry for my bad English

 

[volvacore]

oh you meant the Calculations , i'm not strictly calculating the intake as my main focus is more strength, Power... then being ripped with 6 pack and all

 

[tbonexl]

Where's meal 5,6, and 7?

 

[tbonexl]

oh you meant the Calculations , i'm not strictly calculating the intake as my main focus is more strength, Power... then being ripped with 6 pack and all

To get ripped with a 6 pack, u need to do calculations!

 

[volvacore]

Where's meal 5,6, and 7?

I'm not actually eating 5,6 and 7 meals, tried it once but could't go to sleep with much more meals

 

[Onk]

oh you meant the Calculations , i'm not strictly calculating the intake as my main focus is more strength, Power... then being ripped with 6 pack and all

LMAO ok
1st Meal : 4-6 Whole Eggs , Beans, Lettuce + (Fish Oil, Multivitamins)
2nd Meal : 2 Cans of Tuna mixed with Vegetables and olive oil , 2-3 Bananas , White Rice(More on Workout days Before Training)
3rd Meal: 40 Grams of whey Protein, Nuts , fish oil
4th Meal: 3-4 Whole Eggs with vegetables or Tuna Again with Vegetables

I also eat something like Apples Between meals , BCAA (During Workout) and some HGH Booster before bedtime.

sorry for my bad English

If you're after being ripped, then the calculations reallllllyyyyy do matter. How else will you know if you're at a calorie surplus or deficit? (E.g. cutting or bulking)

Straight off it looks like you have not enough protein, carbs AND fats. No wonder you aren't gaining. You aren't eating enough.
I swear I was eating more than you pre-contest calorie deficient....and I was cutting for that contest. You said you are trying to bulk...

So, step 1/ EAT MORE.
step 2/ keep eating more
step 3/ don't tough steroids until you eat more as you won't gain much since you don't have enough fuel (food) for your muscles to grow

 

[volvacore]

To get ripped with a 6 pack, u need to do calculations!

Sorry i meant i have no interest in 6 pack , My Main interest is More power and strength

 

[volvacore]

To get ripped with a 6 pack, u need to do calculations!

Sorry i meant i have no interest in 6 pack , My Main interest is More power and strength

 

[Nightmare007]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

 

[volvacore]

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/664646-cycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

Anyway i got myself 5000 iu of HCG and clomid now and was thinking about starting this way:
1-500 mg Test e (250x2 weekly) for 8 weeks
2-For AI i'd Take the Anastrazole tablet of 1mg Every 3 Days since the start of the cycle until the last shot.
3-Start Taking the HCG in the last 4 weeks of the cycle 2x times of 500iu a week and stop at the last day of test e cycle (how do you calculate 500iu from the 5000 iu on the needle anyway?)
4-After 2 weeks off Test e cycle and HCG shot , i start taking Clomid and Nolvadex(Or Anastrazole again) for 2 weeks.

What u guys think?? Any changes?

 

[yanks4life]

an 8 week cycle of Test E?.... I didnt start getting to the good part of my 1st cycle unitl week 5 or 6. 8 weeks is way too short IMO.

for your HCG.... 5000ius for the vial. add 1ml of BAC water. that makes each 10 mark on a 1cc syringe 500ius. 250iu 2x/wk is more a general protocol so you would pull back to 5 mark.

there is a peptide calculator on here you can use

 

[yanks4life]

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[volvacore]

an 8 week cycle of Test E?.... I didnt start getting to the good part of my 1st cycle unitl week 5 or 6. 8 weeks is way too short IMO.

for your HCG.... 5000ius for the vial. add 1ml of BAC water. that makes each 10 mark on a 1cc syringe 500ius. 250iu 2x/wk is more a general protocol so you would pull back to 5 mark.

there is a peptide calculator on here you can use

So u think i should keep taking test for like 12 weeks then? and should i take the HGC in mid cycle or all the way from start to end?
Your help is appreciated