First cycle Test E advice please

Because calling me a keyboard warrior isn't a contradiction or anything. And I'm trying to get my shit together, it's the whole point of me asking questions. There is so much different advice on how and what to take throughout this board as well as others that it tends to leave "noobs" confused.
 
So i think I've got things about right finally..

1-12 TestE 300x2 e3d
1-12 HCG 250iux2 e3d (injected with the Test at the same time)
1-12 Amiridex .25mg eod (will increase to .50mg if sides are bad)

2 weeks after my last pin..
Clomid 40/40/20/20
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Anything look off? Times, Dosages etc?
Also like i mentioned, with the TestE that I have, one vial is 450mg the other is 300mg. Would you suggest running the 450mg first as is, or just adjust the amount so its closer to 300mg? The reason one is stronger was because they knew i wanted to frontload so they recommended I use the stronger vial first? This is the gear that i have, and am using, so im just looking for advice on the best way to take it.

Thank you
 
So i think I've got things about right finally..

1-12 TestE 300x2 e3d
1-12 HCG 250iux2 e3d (injected with the Test at the same time)
1-12 Amiridex .25mg eod (will increase to .50mg if sides are bad)

2 weeks after my last pin..
Clomid 40/40/20/20
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Anything look off? Times, Dosages etc?
Also like i mentioned, with the TestE that I have, one vial is 450mg the other is 300mg. Would you suggest running the 450mg first as is, or just adjust the amount so its closer to 300mg? The reason one is stronger was because they knew i wanted to frontload so they recommended I use the stronger vial first? This is the gear that i have, and am using, so im just looking for advice on the best way to take it.

Thank you

If you want to run 300mg every 3 days, then that is what you should do. Adjust the volume so that you are injecting 300mg. You just have to do the math.


By the way, you are going to be 900mg short on test for your 12 week cycle. Either get more test or consider pinning on a 3.5 day schedule. I didn't check the math on a 3.5 day schedule but it should get you closer. Or perhaps 250mg every 3 days would work. Again, just do the math to see if you have enough. And remember that some of the test is lost in the vial.
 
8) Can I use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) only for Pct?
No you shouldn't. It is better than nothing, but Clomid or Nolva are far better plans. Since Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mimics LH, your body won't begin producing its own LH, as it sees no need to because test levels are high. You stop the HCG, your balls stop making test until your body begins producing adequate levels of its own LH, and that may take a while if you don't use Clomid or nolvadex to stimulate LH production. The use of Clomid or Nolvadex should also be continued at least 2 weeks after Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is discontinued to avoid the v causing problems.

9) Can I use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle and when?
Yes you can, imo to best benefit from Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is to run it by the last 3-4 weeks of your steroid cycle. Do not run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) if you're getting signs of gyno, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will make it worst, so be careful.

10) How much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is needed during cycle and/or pct?
For pct a minimum of 10,000 IU's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is needed. When you have a proper pct planned with a serm and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and you want to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during the last 4 weeks of your cycle, then you might only need 5,000iu's.
An anti-estrogen (Nolva, etc.) is to be used with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during your last 4 weeks of cycle.

good stuff i appreciate the info
 
Alright guys. Cycles done and my last pin was 2 weeks ago. I ended up running my cycle for 10 weeks w/o hcg. In that time i went from a striated 168lbs to 188lbs. Still lean, i just look a fuller. Strength went up all over the place. Id typically dumbbell bench press 100's for 5-7 reps, Mid way through the cycle i was putting up 120's for 6. All of my measurements are up anywhere between .25 - 1.50 inch. Had very little side effects. I didnt get bad acne, but i did get some small bumps on my rear delts. I also seemed to sweat more than normal in my sleep, not sure if its related. Also had lower back pumps, but my lower back aways hurts, so im not sure if it was acting up or if it was adding to the pain i normally feel. All in all i cant complain. I broke not only my body weight plateau's but also the weight i was pushing.

Now for some PCT help, because again, so many people have opinions on it that, well, im confused.
What i have on hand is Nolva, Clomid, Adex and Exemestane.

Any suggestions on which to take as well as dosage and timing? I've read to take Clomid 50/50/25/25 and Nolva 40/40/20/20? Ive also read not to take both, or that with it being a 10 week test E cycle that Clomid would suffice on its own?

Also, Would you suggest a natural test booster? If so, any recommendations? I took Lean Xtreme as well years back after a PH cycles to help cortisol levels, would this be recommended?

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thank you in advance
 
If I were you, I would run the test e at 500mg per week for a first cycle. I saw amazing gains of that and I think anything more is just getting a little greedy.

As for HCG - from what I've read, running HCG for PCT is a bit dated. I would do as the others say and stay away from it with PCT and run it throughout your cycle.
 
This info has already been posted for u...


so then ?

Clomid 40/40/20/20
Nolva 40/40/20/20

or

Clomafene Citrate 50mg everyday for 4 weeks
Tamoxifen citrate 40mg every day 2 weeks followed by 20mg everyday for 2 weeks

Do i not need to take an ai anymore?
 
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If I were you, I would run the test e at 500mg per week for a first cycle. I saw amazing gains of that and I think anything more is just getting a little greedy.

As for HCG - from what I've read, running HCG for PCT is a bit dated. I would do as the others say and stay away from it with PCT and run it throughout your cycle.


Cycles over dude. Im on PCT now
 
Too much bullshit talk from OP and not enough research. OP just get down to basic cycles and listen to advice. Learn about estrogen, prolactin. your endocrine system, your HPTA system and on and on.. Put your cycle together with your dose wk, dose per ed, eod and the compound. Figure the math yourself, for the 450-300 and on and on. Also stick to simple same ester per compound.
Your PCT is not common so you get other input. DO it Simple Simon.
 
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