First cycle, Test, EQ, DBol

[resident_fool]

After about 6 months of research i finally decided that I will run for my first cycle and got all of it today Let me know what you guys think of it.

BTW my stats are : 20yrs old, 192 lbs. 9% bodyfat, (guessing) lifting for 7.5 years, done a few cycles of PH before, such as mag10 and 1 test. Also with one of the mag10 cycles, I used humalog at 4IU after every workout. Have also used cytomel and clen before with 1AD for a cutting cycle.

My goals of this cycle are for the first half to build up mass while keeping bodyfat reasonably low, then to cut durinig the last 4-6 weeks, and get down to 4-5%bodyfat or so. Hopefully will end up at least 215.

Weeks 1-10: 400mg/week EQ
Weeks 1-6: 300 or 400? mg/week Test Prop.
Weeks 1-4: 30mg/ED Dbol
Weeks 1-3 and 7-9: will work my way up to 10IU humalog post workout only.
Weeks 1-12: 50mg/ED proviron
Weeks 1-15: 10-20mg/ED Nolva
Weeks 10-13: 1000IU HCG every 5th day
Weeks 9-12: cytomel and clen

I may run the test prop for 12 weeks, will take things as they go depending on if I get side effects or not. Also thinking about throwing some tren in there weeks 6-12 at 75mg/EOD.

Had a few questions too
Will the ancillaries I am running be enough?
For hair loss, I have some spiro, and rogaine, but not sure of the best way to use them, any suggestions?
For acne, I have some azelaic acid that I will apply 2x daily, also will be using emu oil, along with antibacterial soap ED. Planning on getting some b-5 also

Thanks for any input

 

[Cmoney]

Looks good, I am running almost the same thing except I am using enthate instead of prop.

 

[NYCEE]

That is a lot of gear for a first cycle.

 

[BRO FO SHO]

I agree with NYCEE this is way too much gear for your first cycle and I gurantee you will dive crash at the end. Do one compound and then add another one on your next cycle, so you could tell which one is doing you good and whats not. Adding that many will just confuse you if something doesn't work with your body...

BUMP to my ASS

 

[resident_fool]

I agree with NYCEE this is way too much gear for your first cycle and I gurantee you will dive crash at the end. Do one compound and then add another one on your next cycle, so you could tell which one is doing you good and whats not. Adding that many will just confuse you if something doesn't work with your body...

BUMP to my ASS

I do not really view it as my first cycle, I have ran cytomel and clen before, and know how they work with my body..also have ran PH cycles with slin-packed on 12 lbs. during the most recent one, but lost about half because all I had for post cycle therapy (pct) was tribulus

The EQ will take a good 4 weeks to kick in, so basically for the first 4 weeks I will be working with test dbol and slin. Looking to get the most out of the cycle is all

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Too much for a first cycle, and "yes" it is your first cycle. (T3 & Clen do NOT count as a cycle.....LOL).

.............also, your goal is very unrealistic, 4-5% bf ??

Have you ever heard of a Test only cycle for your first ??........I suggest you go back to the drawing board and start over.

 

[stonecold54]

I do not really view it as my first cycle, I have ran cytomel and clen before, and know how they work with my body..also have ran PH cycles with slin-packed on 12 lbs. during the most recent one, but lost about half because all I had for post cycle therapy (pct) was tribulus

The EQ will take a good 4 weeks to kick in, so basically for the first 4 weeks I will be working with test dbol and slin. Looking to get the most out of the cycle is all

your reasoning is flawed. as NTO said fat burners and insulin don't count as cycles. this the first time you will have exogenous horomones pumping through you. I am not sure why you say that eq won't kick in for 4 weeks. it is readily available in your blood stream within hours. Do test at 500mg a week with a long ester (prop if you have to). you will be happy with those results and you will have saved so much time and money. take out the dbol, the proviron, the insulin, the hcg and everyrthing else.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

your reasoning is flawed. as NTO said fat burners and insulin don't count as cycles. this the first time you will have exogenous horomones pumping through you. I am not sure why you say that eq won't kick in for 4 weeks. it is readily available in your blood stream within hours. Do test at 500mg a week with a long ester (prop if you have to). you will be happy with those results and you will have saved so much time and money. take out the dbol, the proviron, the insulin, the hcg and everyrthing else.

LOL.......I got $20 that he says we don't know what we're talking about. You in ?

 

[stonecold54]

LOL.......I got $20 that he says we don't know what we're talking about. You in ?

probably but what the heck we were all 20 and invincible at one time. LOL

 

[RJ]

LOL.......I got $20 that he says we don't know what we're talking about. You in ?

I wasn't going to even respond to this one, but I'll take that bet SC. I was pretty stupid at 20, but my stupidity stopped at ONE cycle of test cyp, and that was due to lack of research available at the time.

BTW, who the f*** messes with slin at such a young age, especially without knowing about Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) anyway??

Good luck with the dive bomb crash dude!!

 

[soonerball]

I did 800 mgs of test cyp for my first cycle, and put on about 25 pounds with that alone. I really think that you should rethink taking all that gear for your first time. Test only for the first one just to see how your body reacts to it. You wont know what is causing you problems if you do have them.

 

[resident_fool]

LOL.......I got $20 that he says we don't know what we're talking about. You in ?

mods sure are helpful these days...at least this one

 

[StoneColdNTO]

mods sure are helpful these days...at least this one

Just because you are too stubborn and think you know it all, like I said you would be. I already gave you my opinion above, but I'll re-post it here so you don't have to bother looking.

Too much for a first cycle, and "yes" it is your first cycle. (T3 & Clen do NOT count as a cycle.....LOL).

.............also, your goal is very unrealistic, 4-5% bf ??

Have you ever heard of a Test only cycle for your first ??........I suggest you go back to the drawing board and start over.

You might not agree with that, but don't go saying I don't try to help, you little ungrateful prick.

 

[Governor]

first, too much. Second, why test only until week 6?

 

[resident_fool]

Just because you are too stubborn and think you know it all, like I said you would be. I already gave you my opinion above, but I'll re-post it here so you don't have to bother looking.


You might not agree with that, but don't go saying I don't try to help, you little ungrateful prick.

if I thought I knew it all, I wouldnt be posting on this board... - no need to pm me just to draw me into an argument.

I came to this board for constructive advice..if you dont have any, no need to respond to my posts

lol by the way dude-asking if I "have heard of a test only first cycle" doesnt help

I will post the results of my cycle when finished

 

[resident_fool]

first, too much. Second, why test only until week 6?

I may run it for the full 12-going to see how things are looking at the 6 week mark in terms of sides.

 

[RJ]

I came to this board for constructive advice..if you dont have any, no need to respond to my posts

Isn't that what we are all saying. Constructive criticism isn't always pleasant little words of affirmation surrounded by love and flowers and happiness. Listen dude, everyone's opinion is that you are taking too much gear for your first cycle. Shit, I would say that is too much gear for a second cycle. But you are going to do what you want no matter what. Like SC said in the first place.

Our advice is just that, ADVICE! Don't post a thread if you don't want answers. And if you want someone to kiss you ass, talk to your mommy and daddy about that. This is a grown up board!

Now, enjoy your EQ, Dbol, TEst, Cytomel, Clen, Insulin, HCG, proviron cycle. And when you come back in 12 weeks, after bloating, losing water, being a diabetic, only to have any muscle you gain be eaten away by the T3 (you know Clen won't help right?), then come back and start a thread where we can all feel sorry for you and you can say next time I am going to do 5g a week of test only, and maybe some aspirin for gyno, and maybe a tribulus finisher for PCT!!!

Sorry SC, just hate when people don't understand!

 

[stonecold54]

I came to this board for constructive advice..if you dont have any, no need to respond to my posts

lol by the way dude-asking if I "have heard of a test only first cycle" doesnt help

I will post the results of my cycle when finished

#1 if you came to the board for constructive advice, that is exactly what you got. #2 if you have ever heard of a test only first cycle would mean that you actually have researched for "6" months!! #3 I gurantee you will get results with the cycle you planned out but that is not the point (well for some guys it is). I do cycles now to try and gain the most out of them with the least amount of drugs. I have been at the stage when I added everything in at once to see how huge I could, not a lot of fun honestly. Good luck to you. and by the way gentle internet busting of chops is pretty normal on any board for newer guys. You have to earn it on these boards.

 

[Numbnutz11731]

if I thought I knew it all, I wouldnt be posting on this board... - no need to pm me just to draw me into an argument.

I came to this board for constructive advice..if you dont have any, no need to respond to my posts

lol by the way dude-asking if I "have heard of a test only first cycle" doesnt help

I will post the results of my cycle when finished

putz!

 

[resident_fool]

great to have all these "experts" on here