First cycle, test only, just a little tweek for a noob (HCG and arimidex)

[teddybear1717]

Hi there guys! My second post with questions about pct, please be kind, I know I'm boring...
I need some help...here goes...

I'm a 26 year old guy and I'm about to start my first cycle. The plan was to do it more than half a year ago, but you know...stuff...
Anyways, I am 180cm tall and 89kg heavy with about 8.5 bf.
Been lifting for about 6 years now.
Diet and training are good.

The cycle will be Test.E. for 10 weeks at 500mg per week (250mg twice a week)
PCT will be Clomide 50/50/50/50
and Nolvadex 20/20/20/10/10, both starting about 2 weeks after the last Test. pin. <--- Are the doses ok?

Now, here come the questions:

1. I am confused about HCG use. Should I use it only after the Test, and if so, at what doses? Or should I use it from the begining of the cycle all the way to the end? And again, at what doses?

2. Should I use Arimidex, that is, should I have it on hand just in case my nippels start to tingle? Or can I just take Nolvadex if they start to tingle? Or is Nolva wrong here?
Some guys say to take it during the whole cycle(arimidex), but to me it makes more sense to just take something if they start to hurt/tingle, and not to take it if I have no symptoms.
Also, what are the alternatives to arimidex (in case I can't buy it here)?

Please help...

Thanks in advance!

 

[tbonexl]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

 

[teddybear1717]

Anyone else?
I did read that sticky, before posting my questions, but It did not answer everything.
Input from other forum useres, and their personal experience, will be helpful...

 

[tbonexl]

After reading that link, what questions could u have?

 

[KingBF]

can we see a picture of the 8.5% bf

 

[teddybear1717]

well, to start:
1. will 500mg HCG a week cause desensitisation? Should I stick with smaller doses?
2. It says: "Hcg 1000iu everyday for the last 10 days of your cycle leading up to your pct " - does that mean I stop HCG at the same time I stop Test E, or am I doing this (1000mg HCG a day) after my last test E pin for 10 days, and start pct about 4 days after the last HCG pin?
3. Do I take AI till the end of the cycle(week 10) or do I continue to take it in the 2 weeks when Im not taking anything (before PCT)?

 

[Mprtz]

Hi there guys! My second post with questions about pct, please be kind, I know I'm boring...
I need some help...here goes...

I'm a 26 year old guy and I'm about to start my first cycle. The plan was to do it more than half a year ago, but you know...stuff...
Anyways, I am 180cm tall and 89kg heavy with about 8.5 bf.
Been lifting for about 6 years now.
Diet and training are good.

The cycle will be Test.E. for 10 weeks at 500mg per week (250mg twice a week)
PCT will be Clomide 50/50/50/50
and Nolvadex 20/20/20/10/10, both starting about 2 weeks after the last Test. pin. <--- Are the doses ok?

Now, here come the questions:

1. I am confused about HCG use. Should I use it only after the Test, and if so, at what doses? Or should I use it from the begining of the cycle all the way to the end? And again, at what doses?

2. Should I use Arimidex, that is, should I have it on hand just in case my nippels start to tingle? Or can I just take Nolvadex if they start to tingle? Or is Nolva wrong here?
Some guys say to take it during the whole cycle(arimidex), but to me it makes more sense to just take something if they start to hurt/tingle, and not to take it if I have no symptoms.
Also, what are the alternatives to arimidex (in case I can't buy it here)?

Please help...

Thanks in advance!

5'11" 195lbs and 8.5% bodyfat - why on earth would you want to take steroids if you achieved that naturally? You are already Frank Zane.

 

[teddybear1717]

well, thanks, but I dont feel so big...I dont know, 89 kilos is not that much on 180cm...I my opinion al least.

 

[teddybear1717]

anyone?
1. will 500mg HCG a week cause desensitisation? Will smaller doses be efective in preventing shutdown?
2. It says: "Hcg 1000iu everyday for the last 10 days of your cycle leading up to your pct " - does that mean I stop HCG at the same time I stop Test E, or am I doing this (1000mg HCG a day) after my last test E pin for 10 days, and start pct about 4 days after the last HCG pin?
3. Do I take AI till the end of the cycle(week 10) or do I continue to take it in the 2 weeks when Im not taking anything (before PCT)? It's the latter, right?

 

[BLH]

anyone?
1. will 500mg HCG a week cause desensitisation? Will smaller doses be efective in preventing shutdown?
2. It says: "Hcg 1000iu everyday for the last 10 days of your cycle leading up to your pct " - does that mean I stop HCG at the same time I stop Test E, or am I doing this (1000mg HCG a day) after my last test E pin for 10 days, and start pct about 4 days after the last HCG pin?
3. Do I take AI till the end of the cycle(week 10) or do I continue to take it in the 2 weeks when Im not taking anything (before PCT)? It's the latter, right?

1. 500 iu every week won't cause desensitization in your case it just depends how long you run it for and what dose, nothing prevents shut down because as soon as you inject yourself with test you are shut down but taking hcg through cycle and finishing up with proper pct will and should restart you effectively.
2. Correct. Start it hcg next day after last test pin run 500-1000 iu ed for 10 days finishing 4 days before you start pct.
3. Continue taking an AI even after last pin as the test will still be in your system and could still give you gyno symptoms, better safe then sorry. I really recommend aromasin (stane) to be taken just 2-3 times per week and dose depending on serverity of your gyno symptoms.
Hope this makes sense.
Edit: There's a couple of methods to hcg protocol, you can run it through cycle or do the 10 day method as stated above^ I personally think the 10 day method is the simplest and easiest way of doing it but that's up to you.

 

[teddybear1717]

thanks a lot man.