First cycle.....thoughts/advice is welcom

[Karroga]

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[scotimusprime]

well planned out cycle. nice to see youve done a lot of research instead of a lotta newbies who dont wanna put in any time.

i for one would say just stick with the test and dbol for a first cycle and im sure a lotta people will agree. add deca in to your next cycle. youre gonna grow like a week just off the test and by adding an oral kickstart, your gonna blow up.

also armidex is not enough for PCT. you need a serm like clomi or novla or both.

 

[chevyon6s]

would def hold onto the deca for next time since its your first......

 

[StoneColdNTO]

As for PCT...

Weeks 1-4- 40 mg Nolva/day
Weeks 1-4 100mg Clomi/ day

Start the PCT 1 week after my last injection.

I want to make sure the PCT is spot on as well as it is prob more important than the cycle itself! Don't want to lose my gains or mess my body up too much!!

You need to wait 14 days after last injection of Cypionate or Enanthate esters before starting PCT.

For PCT....Clomid @ 50mg/day along with Aromasin @ 25mg/day

 

[scotimusprime]

also the diff between cyp and enth is basically just the name. i think cyp may have like a day or two longer half life but dont quote me on that. main diff is that way back in the day enth was made everywhere and cyp was born in the usa

500mg/week of either cyp or enth is a perfect dose. no need for more or less.

also i think your PCT is a little overkill. 50 mg of clomi and 20 mg of novla together for 4 weeks, 14 days after last test pin would be sufficient

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

no need to switch to cyp instead of enanthate.. their almost identical i believe its only a 1carbon difference.. 8-7 or maybe 7-6? not 100%sure but point is either is fine.. and i agree with above about dropping the deca.. run the test alone and if you have to you can throw in the dbol.. take your time with the first few cycles.. testosterone at 500mg will give you excellent results..

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

also the diff between cyp and enth is basically just the name. i think cyp may have like a day or two longer half life but dont quote me on that. main diff is that way back in the day enth was made everywhere and cyp was born in the usa

500mg/week of either cyp or enth is a perfect dose. no need for more or less.

also i think your PCT is a little overkill. 50 mg of clomi and 20 mg of novla together for 4 weeks, 14 days after last test pin would be sufficient

not too disagree but the difference is the ester its attached too.. if they were the same, chances are theyd have the same name?? lol sorry had to say it

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

■Enanthate is manufactured widely throughout the world, while cypionate is less common outside the USA. Hence, cypionate tends to be more common in the States.
■Enanthate is suspended in sesame oil; cypionate is suspended in cottonseed oil.
■Enanthate has a 7-carbon ester chain while cypionate has an 8-carbon ester chain. The more carbons the ester group has, the more soluble in oil and the less soluble in water it becomes. As a result, cypionate has a slightly slower release and longer active life.
■Due to being one atom lighter, enanthate has more testosterone per mg. The difference is insignificant though, perhaps a few milligrams amount of steroid more.

Found it.. and scott im sure you knew this i just posted it for the kid asking the question.. can never have enough info..

 

[scotimusprime]

ya youre right but they are so similar. i know its more than just the name being different i just meant that they are interchangable. you can run either and treat them the same.....IE shots per week,mgs/week and post cycle therapy (pct) wait time'

but you are right,i houldnt have been so general

 

[scotimusprime]

man you could start a "pickle porn" mag with all those pics

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

lol.. yeah i gotta chill with the pictures a bit though.. i got my peepee spanked.. which is understandable.. some were a ittle rough on the female posters.. and we love female posters..

 

[scotimusprime]

ya dont scare them off ya clown lol

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

well when i joined this WONDERFUL site i noticed it was alot of guys.. but lately ive seen a rise in female activity.. so i will gladly tone the pix down.. noone like a sausage fest..

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

■Enanthate is suspended in sesame oil; cypionate is suspended in cottonseed oil.
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cottonseed, sesame, almond, grapeseed

this all depends on manufacturer

I wanna try almond oil next

 

[devil_doc]

also, if you are considered a hard gainer, might wanna chill on all the cardio.. since thats pretty much destroying potential gains everything else seems on point from what you have and peoples input

 

[transformer15]

QUOTE=Greazy-Pickle;2180691]■Enanthate is manufactured widely throughout the world, while cypionate is less common outside the USA. Hence, cypionate tends to be more common in the States.
■Enanthate is suspended in sesame oil; cypionate is suspended in cottonseed oil.
■Enanthate has a 7-carbon ester chain while cypionate has an 8-carbon ester chain. The more carbons the ester group has, the more soluble in oil and the less soluble in water it becomes. As a result, cypionate has a slightly slower release and longer active life.
■Due to being one atom lighter, enanthate has more testosterone per mg. The difference is insignificant though, perhaps a few milligrams amount of steroid more.

Found it.. and scott im sure you knew this i just posted it for the kid asking the question.. can never have enough info..[/QUOTE]
Nice job pickle..

 

[mr big pecs]

Hello All.

New to this site. I've been looking at many other sites and decided this one has the most educated participants. So I've decided to post and see what I get.

I am about to start my first cycle. But before I go into that I will tell you about myself.

33 y.o. 5'7 163 lbs. 9-11% BF (depends on week) Been training for 10 + yrs. Have always been a "hard gainer" Diet is very good. Eat 6-7 meals a day. Consuming roughly 3300 kclas/day. Break down is 30% P, 30% F, 40% C. Remember these are rough estimates but pretty close.

Workout everyday. No fear of over training as I have found my body repsonds best. I hit up on body part a day M- Chest, Tuesday - Back, Wed- Arms, Thur - legs, Fri-shoulders, sat- trap/back, sun- cardio, abs, calves, forearms. I also do 20 min of cardio every day. Strength training is approx 40-50 minutes. roughly 12 sets per day. Train heavy as I can for 8-10 reps. Like I said. Some may not agree with this but I have found that my body repsonds very well to this schedule. But I am open to suggestions as I may need more/less on a cylce.

My goal is to put on a solid 15 lbs. I am thinking that I should add on approx 20-25 lbs and keep 15. Hope that isn't a pipe dream!! Not worried about fat gain as I am lean as it is and know how to cut back.

I feel that I am 'maxed out' on my natural gains and want to take it to the next level.

So on to the cycle....

Weeks 1-10 500 mg Test Enanthate 250/week.
Weeks 1-10 250 mg Deca250/week
Weeks 1-6 40 mg Dianabol 10/day

Weeks 1-10 .5 mg Arimidex/day and continue 10 days past cycle. (not sure about this or Noval...suggestions)

Will take D-bol about an hour before workout. And Test (1ml) and Deca (.5ml) Mondays and Thursdays. Also thought EOD but i want consistency. Thoughts as well?

As for the PCT....i've read mixed things. Thought that the Arimidex would be enough but have read a lot about Noval and that seems a bit better.

If I get many repsonse I was thinking of posting my results as I go along as well. Semi-documentary. I know it has been done before but will be more for myself.

Thanks to anyone who reads this/respondes.

bluddi hell your training scheme is too heavy rememba rest is key. i recommend you train for 2 days and rest for 1 day and stick to this ratio of 2:1 training and rest

 

[1stcycle10]

My first cycle need veteran advice

I am a 22 year old male, 6'1 weighing 174lbs. I will be starting a cycle of test enanthate in a month and need clarification on a few things:

1) I will be going 10 weeks on test enanthate at 250mg twice a week on mondays and thursdays, some have told me to go 5 weeks and stop. My question is should I stay at 10 or go 5?

2) next if I go 10, should I take nolvadex while on test? If I should what size dose and when should I start and stop? I have read start at week 2 and end at week 10

3) for my pct, I have been recommended clomid. Everyone says wait 2weeks after last shot to start. I want to know exactly how and when to take each dose

 

[DADAWG]

I am a 22 year old male, 6'1 weighing 174lbs. I will be starting a cycle of test enanthate in a month and need clarification on a few things:

1) I will be going 10 weeks on test enanthate at 250mg twice a week on mondays and thursdays, some have told me to go 5 weeks and stop. My question is should I stay at 10 or go 5?

2) next if I go 10, should I take nolvadex while on test? If I should what size dose and when should I start and stop? I have read start at week 2 and end at week 10

3) for my pct, I have been recommended clomid. Everyone says wait 2weeks after last shot to start. I want to know exactly how and when to take each dose

start a new thread of your own .

welcome to ology

 

[BigNasty88]

I am a 22 year old male, 6'1 weighing 174lbs. I will be starting a cycle of test enanthate in a month and need clarification on a few things:

1) I will be going 10 weeks on test enanthate at 250mg twice a week on mondays and thursdays, some have told me to go 5 weeks and stop. My question is should I stay at 10 or go 5?

2) next if I go 10, should I take nolvadex while on test? If I should what size dose and when should I start and stop? I have read start at week 2 and end at week 10

3) for my pct, I have been recommended clomid. Everyone says wait 2weeks after last shot to start. I want to know exactly how and when to take each dose

why do people do that shit? stupid fucking question anyways. read all the posts above you highspeed. theres the answer to your question. looking like a soup sandwich.