First Cycle would like help!

[kaspain]

Hey guys here is the lay out of my first cycle

Cycle:
Test Enth: 500MG/wk
adex:eod .5mg
Running this for about 8 weeks
Pct
8 days after last inject 1000iu HCG every 4 days for 3 weeks will also run adex with the hcg following up to the full pct 1mg eod. Once nolva starts will take out the adex about 2 days before
12 days after last inject Nolvadex 30mg/ed 3 weeks.

Would really appreciate some feedback if you guys can help as well.

 

[tbonexl]

Your pretty far off on everything. Cycle should be 12 weeks minimum. Pct should start 18-21 days after last pin. Pct should only consist of nolva and clomid. Hcg should only be used from beginning of cycle up to pct with an ai. Your ai dose is a bit high too. Go read the ology faq's...

 

[Megatron28]

Tbone hit the mark on issues in your cycle. This looks poorly planned.

This part really makes me shudder.

l also run adex with the hcg following up to the full pct 1mg eod.

What is your body fat %? Height? Weight? Age? Years training?

 

[kaspain]

The thing is the half life of the ester enanthate its only 12 days why wait 18-21? i will be cutting down the dose .5 eod if need following to pct nolva

 

[kaspain]

if you think about it hcg starts up the testes while syntetic test shuts them down why would i use both at the same time..

 

[Megatron28]

if you think about it hcg starts up the testes while syntetic test shuts them down why would i use both at the same time..

Helps keeps the testicles from completely shutting down on cycle and atrophying. Minimizing testicular atrophy helps one recover faster during PCT.

 

[kaspain]

I beg to differ because their has been no studies done on that when you shoot syntetic test your completely shut down it doesnt matter if you shoot hcg back until the Test clears out of your body.

 

[Megatron28]

I beg to differ because their has been no studies done on that when you shoot syntetic test your completely shut down it doesnt matter if you shoot hcg back until the Test clears out of your body.

hCG mimics the LH signal. This LH signal gets your testicles to keep producing a trickle of testosterone. That is why guys on TRT run hCG. Keeping that trickle of test coming out helps minimize atrophy.

You can do it your way though. Just don't complain when your balls shrink and you have a harder time getting them turned back on after your cycle. And sex won't feel as good with shrunken balls.

 

[kaspain]

hCG mimics the LH signal. This LH signal gets your testicles to keep producing a trickle of testosterone. That is why guys on TRT run hCG. Keeping that trickle of test coming out helps minimize atrophy.

You can do it your way though. Just don't complain when your balls shrink and you have a harder time getting them turned back on after your cycle. And sex won't feel as good with shrunken balls.

so if I ran hcg on cycle and did nolva at the end for pct I would recover faster correct?

 

[Megatron28]

so if I ran hcg on cycle and did nolva at the end for pct I would recover faster correct?

In theory, yes. And have a better chance of recovering fully.

hCG should be run at 250iu every 3.5 days on cycle. Do not use hCG during PCT.

You need to run Clomid and Nolva for PCT. Both of them together work better than individually.

How about answering the questions I asked you in Post #3?

 

[kaspain]

I know you guys are going to start with the diet/ to young stuff but here are the stats 11 %? 6,2 165 2 aiming for a lean bulk through this cycle. training for about 2 years now. Also another thing with the nolva and clomid is it really necessary to have clomid and nolva or could I just do one or the other for example just nolva by its self?

 

[kaspain]

xx

 

[Megatron28]

I know you guys are going to start with the diet/ to young stuff but here are the stats 11 %? 6,2 165 2 aiming for a lean bulk through this cycle. training for about 2 years now. Also another thing with the nolva and clomid is it really necessary to have clomid and nolva or could I just do one or the other for example just nolva by its self?

How old are you?

What is your diet? 165 pounds at 6'2" is pretty skinny. You wont grow on a cycle if you don't know how to eat sufficient calories and protein .

Clomid and Nolva together are not necessary. But then of course, neither is PCT. You don't have to run PCT. It just preferred. I don't know why you would want to skimp on your PCT to save a few bucks. PCT is the most important part of your cycle.

 

[kaspain]

I was just thinking because if I was going to add clomid then I might as well do a full stack with dbol too then so its worth doing a full pct and all what are your thoughts?

 

[kaspain]

Yea im skinny atm but thats because i bulked up not knowing wtf i was doing on my diet alot of carbs low protein and just gained fat so now starting over again pretty much. age 21 I know its young but I know the consequences that follow doing it at a younge age.

 

[Megatron28]

I was just thinking because if I was going to add clomid then I might as well do a full stack with dbol too then so its worth doing a full pct and all what are your thoughts?

First cycle should be test only so you can learn how to manage the side effects like estrogen

Why so you have the impression that a Test-only cycle doesn't require a "full" PCT as you put it? Your HPTA will be shut down on Test. Unless you want to be on TRT it behooves you to get your HPTA restarted after your cycle.

 

[Megatron28]

Yea im skinny atm but thats because i bulked up not knowing wtf i was doing on my diet alot of carbs low protein and just gained fat so now starting over again pretty much. age 21 I know its young but I know the consequences that follow doing it at a younge age.

What are the consequences of running an AAS cycle before the age of 25? Can you articulate them?

 

[kaspain]

What are the consequences of running an AAS cycle before the age of 25? Can you articulate them?

Consequences are trt on life because of HPTA not being to be able to reboot back because of permanent shut down in the LH also could definitely tamper with the endocrine system as well. True as well will be doing a full pct with nolva and clomid.

 

[Grant345]

how many calories are you eating a day? and what are the macros?(proteins,carbs,fats), at your weight and height you should grow like a weed on a high calorie diet, leave the steroids for a few years and learn how to eat big to get big, diet is everything man you dont need steroids at your wieght

 

[kaspain]

how many calories are you eating a day? and what are the macros?(proteins,carbs,fats), at your weight and height you should grow like a weed on a high calorie diet, leave the steroids for a few years and learn how to eat big to get big, diet is everything man you dont need steroids at your wieght

diet is real fucked up right now just losin weight with an intake of real bad macros all scatter losing weight but not the right way to do it atm. plus ive tried to bulk up and stuff my body isnt really made for Building muscles some people have the talent some dont ones that dont have to use modern day technology to get their desired goal along with the hard work steroids just helps boost all that.