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Ok guys im hoping to get a bit of advice of some experienced/advanced users on my first cycle.
first ill give you some details about me
im 23, 6ft, 180lbs, ive been training for 5years nearly 6. ill be 24 when i commence the course. i eat,train and sleep.
i eat very well, get all my complex carbs, protiens,fruit an veg.get 8 hours sleep min per night. as a natty so far i work out max 45 mins 4days per week.
i have tried countless variations, 3 day split, 4 day split etc. many sets (maybe overtrained but still tried it) few sets....
i eat 6 - 7 meals a day consistantly every 2 - 3 hours. postworkout an preworkout nutrition is spot on..
my supplements are: Protien shake.
BCAA's
Glutamine
Multivit
Fish oils
creatine
and a mass wieght gainer the majority of the time.
i have tried bulking up which i have considerably from around 155lbs natural wieght as i am an ectomorph although i have managed to change that. i also put fat on although its a clean bulk.
an then when i try n lose the fat... i lose muscle. its like a balloon being blown up an down. i take all the anti-catabolic procedures but at the end of the day my familys genetics are terrible.not one of them have a muscle between them.
I am desperate to run test prop 100mg eod (due to if i start shedding i can drop it) and less sides with short cycle.
but im terrified of mpb
id love to run NPP only but that a no go unless u want to be shutdown i was thinking about a low dose of test prop for an NPP??
ive read into finasteride and dutaseride but they sound bad with sides.
i will continue to read up on this though until november when i commence the cycle.
my goals are to put on some decent amount of size. im not asking to look like a huge bodybuilder..i just really want to fill out my upper chest an bring out my side delts etc. ive been trying for nearly 6 years to do it but its not in the cards naturally for me. so i have been very patient but now its time lol.
i would really appreciate all your help guys and thank you!!
first ill give you some details about me
im 23, 6ft, 180lbs, ive been training for 5years nearly 6. ill be 24 when i commence the course. i eat,train and sleep.
i eat very well, get all my complex carbs, protiens,fruit an veg.get 8 hours sleep min per night. as a natty so far i work out max 45 mins 4days per week.
i have tried countless variations, 3 day split, 4 day split etc. many sets (maybe overtrained but still tried it) few sets....
i eat 6 - 7 meals a day consistantly every 2 - 3 hours. postworkout an preworkout nutrition is spot on..
my supplements are: Protien shake.
BCAA's
Glutamine
Multivit
Fish oils
creatine
and a mass wieght gainer the majority of the time.
i have tried bulking up which i have considerably from around 155lbs natural wieght as i am an ectomorph although i have managed to change that. i also put fat on although its a clean bulk.
an then when i try n lose the fat... i lose muscle. its like a balloon being blown up an down. i take all the anti-catabolic procedures but at the end of the day my familys genetics are terrible.not one of them have a muscle between them.
I am desperate to run test prop 100mg eod (due to if i start shedding i can drop it) and less sides with short cycle.
but im terrified of mpb
id love to run NPP only but that a no go unless u want to be shutdown i was thinking about a low dose of test prop for an NPP??
ive read into finasteride and dutaseride but they sound bad with sides.
i will continue to read up on this though until november when i commence the cycle.
my goals are to put on some decent amount of size. im not asking to look like a huge bodybuilder..i just really want to fill out my upper chest an bring out my side delts etc. ive been trying for nearly 6 years to do it but its not in the cards naturally for me. so i have been very patient but now its time lol.
i would really appreciate all your help guys and thank you!!
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