First Cycle!

[CaradCU]

I would like to get the opinion of you beasts on my stats and goals,
I have being training for awhile now weight and endurance, I am 5'10" 196 lbs, 18 % BF, I need to stay at certain weight(180 would be ideal <10%) my diet is usually pretty good.
(I am familiar with steroids for therapeutic use (joint pain=deca 75mg/ week, susta= recovery 250mg/week) never done a cycle longer than 4 weeks), I've being training for 15 years(endurance and weights, grappling and MMA) and now at 35 yo I wanna do a real cycle. Get a little Diesel.
Goal: 185lbs at 7% BF. don't want to be massive, just wanna increase muscle mass and libido and decrease BF. I have a thick frame already so.......
my gear: 7000 mg of Test E, Cabasser 25 tabs, Anastrazole, Clomid, HCH, Deca and Dianabol 50 10 mg tabs.

WEEK 1 TO 4
500 mg Test p/ week
10 mg Dbol EOD
WEEK 5-8
600 MG OF TEST
200MG OF DECA
.5 MG ANASTRAZOLE eod
WEEK 9 TO 12
600 MG TEST
ANASTRAZOLE .5 eod.

CABASSER 1MG 2X WEEK

PCT.

Really appreciate you guys feed back.

 

[Jonnie187]

WOW... That's one hell of a first cycle there for a "first cycle" You say that you have done cycles before but never longer than 4 weeks. The decca is a long ester so I really find it hard to believe you had any relief for joint pain from the decca in 4 weeks. maybe week 6 when the long ester was just starting to release the hormone in your blood but a 75mg a week I doubt it..

Then you say the Sustanon (sust) for recovery 250 a week.. That's a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose. I bet you never even noticed it my friend. No strength gains. You Sustanon (sust) needs to be run at a higher dose and inj 2/3 weeks to take full advantage of it. You basicly have virgin receptors and will do very well depending on diet with this as your first cycle...just my .02

ok onto your current potion...If it were my first cycle I would drop everything but the test. I would switch over to a long ester test e or c just for the simple fact that prop needs to be pinned ed or eod. Your probably not to familiar with pinning just yet. Pin test e/c twice a week for 12 weeks that puts you at 500mg a week(assuming it is 250mg/ml) perfect dose to know how you will handle the sides.

I do understand why you want to run the test p first and the dbol kicker but 10mg a day of dbol is a waste imo. I just personally think if you run the above mentioned dosages of test then you will achieve you goals that you want. Gear is not magic, you will need to have your diet on point to get to where you want. I also recommend running arimidex at .05 eod.

I would do the standard post cycle therapy (pct) protocol clomid 100/100/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20.

 

[Ocdude]

I agree this is a mess of a "first" cycle... Even with your limited experience with Deca, if all you really want to do is recomp, you really just need the test. Then its all about your diet.

If you run Test Prop for 4 weeks and then switch to Test E after that, you're going to notice a severe dip in levels... You have to start Test E sooner to let it build up. I'd suggest going with Test E from the beginning, stacked with the 4 weeks of dbol to kickstart. You can run the prop when you run out of Test E. This will also allow you to run post cycle therapy (pct) a week earlier. Also, note that the Dbol will bloat you up pretty seriously for the first 5-6 weeks.

Something more like this is what I'd suggest:
Week 1-10 Test E 500-600mg/week
Week 11-14 Test P
Week 16-20 post cycle therapy (pct)

Nice, clean and simple.

 

[Rumpy]

Wow yeah, that's a bit of a mess. You need to rethink that one. Is the 4 weeks of 200mg of deca just for joints? I've only used prami, not caber, but I think your caber dose is way to high for that much deca. Also, you will need to start the Test E on day one so it builds in your system. The way you show it, at the beginning of week 5 the prop will clear you system in a few days and you will crash while you wait for the E to build up.

If you're trying to build a cycle out of gear you already have, post up everything you've got and we'll try to help out.

 

[Sardis23]

Just stick to the basics and run test e 500mg/week for 12 weeks, arimidex 0.5mg eod for 12 weeks, and nolva/clomid as pct.