First Injection - Test Cyp question

Yes, this is normal - and should go away in a day or two. The next day I felt like I had been kicked by a mule. I searched for info and found it is normal due to the muscles at the injection site not being used to holding this new volume of fluid you injected. What size needle did you inject with? Did you draw the test with one needed and use a second (smaller) needle to inject? How often do you inject? Is the test from a pharmacy or an underground lab?

For me, the pain lessened each time I injected until my third one, at which point only the initial jab pinches and no other pain. When I start a new site, it starts all over again with the pain.


HOWEVER - If the pain increases or the area gets red or abnormally to the touch, you might have a problem.
 
Jimstigator said:
Where did you inject, how much, and what are stats of the needle?

-Jim
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I just started TRT so I am a little unfamiliar with needle sizes. The pharmacy provided one needle to extract the test and others to use for injecting. Whatever the standard size is, is likely what I used. I injected up and to the right of my belly button as I don't have enough fat in other areas to do subcutaneously (that's how the doc wants me injecting). Should note, there was a little blood after injection (very very little) so I may have gone into the muscle by accident
 
Talktoazza said:
I just started TRT so I am a little unfamiliar with needle sizes. The pharmacy provided one needle to extract the test and others to use for injecting. Whatever the standard size is, is likely what I used. I injected up and to the right of my belly button as I don't have enough fat in other areas to do subcutaneously (that's how the doc wants me injecting). Should note, there was a little blood after injection (very very little) so I may have gone into the muscle by accident
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Look on the packaging of the needles. It should tell you what type/gauge they are. If you are doing subq injections I am guessing you have an insulin needle.

Did you inject slowly or were you in a rush to get it done? Slow and steady is best. Was your hand steady?

Some blood after is normal. Just means you went through a blood vessel (capillary).

If you went into the muscle it still shouldn't hurt. And it won't cause any issues with your TRT protocol.
 
Megatron28 said:
Look on the packaging of the needles. It should tell you what type/gauge they are. If you are doing subq injections I am guessing you have an insulin needle.

Did you inject slowly or were you in a rush to get it done? Slow and steady is best. Was your hand steady?

Some blood after is normal. Just means you went through a blood vessel (capillary).

If you went into the muscle it still shouldn't hurt. And it won't cause any issues with your TRT protocol.
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Not home at the moment so I can't check but I know they were insulin needles. I inserted the needle quickly but went slow with the fluid. The discomfort has already subsides for the most part, just a little tenderness/stinging sensation when I touch it
 
Talktoazza said:
Not home at the moment so I can't check but I know they were insulin needles. I inserted the needle quickly but went slow with the fluid. The discomfort has already subsides for the most part, just a little tenderness/stinging sensation when I touch it
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Almost no one is too lean for subq in the stomach using a 1/2 in insulin needle and a pinch of skin. I do it every other day and it's nearly painless. Definately no pain after the injection. When I didn't pinch skin a little, I got a sting after each shot.

Jim
 
Following up: I injected with BD Insulin Syringes, 8mm length - 31gauge.
It doesn't sting anymore but I have a quarter sized bruise and a small lump at the injection site
 
cybrsage said:
I thought TRT had to be intra muscular.
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Definately not. I have been doing subq every other day for a couple months now with great results. Once I get a few more labs to show effectiveness, Ill be posting about it. Biggest thing I see is guys injecting subq once a week or greater. If you inject really large quantities, it can cause a bump. Twice a week seems to be the gold standard. I do EOD.

Love or hate him... there is no denying Dr. Crisler is one of the kings of TRT. He has been pushing subq for years. I personally disagree with his needle choice and opt for a 29g, 1/2in, .5ml insulin syringe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n98LOFQwUGA

-Jim
 
I never heard of it, but after doing a bunch of reading on it, I think I will give it a try. I have wanted to change to every 3.5 days for injections, but cannot stomach all the additional IM injections needed (double my current amount), but I can easily do two SubQ injections a week.

Thanks for the info!
 
My protocol is 200mg a week of Test Cyp, I believe that I read you should not try in inject more than 50mg at a time when injecting SubQ, so that would be 4 injections a week. I am currently doing two injections a week IM and to be honest I almost feel nothing when injecting, just a little pinch from the needle going in which is about wheat I feel when doing my SubQ injections of HCG so I am fine sticking to my IM.

I can't remember exactly who it was might have been 3J that started doing SubQ injections for their Test and didn't have favorable results but that was a while back and I could be mistaken.
 
For me - its definitely as effective as IM.

My current protocol is 28mg test cyp EOD, or approx 100mg every week. Three blood readings so far, over the course of 1.5 months, avg TT 900. Sensitive estrogen was <5, 18, 15. Still coming up from crashing it with adex, which I have now been off for a month or two.

-Jim
 
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