First test cycle

[jrp77]

Alright, first and foremost please don't blow up on me for being new or uneducated in this... Because I'll be the first to admit I am uneducated in this area. I haven't bought anything nor do I plan to until I have recieved some constructive crytisism to base it on. That being said I have been lifting regularly(roughly 4-6 days a week) for a couple years now. I am six foot even and weigh 185 and am 26. I feel like over the last 6-8 months I have hit my first really solid block and would like to run a cycle. My diet is fairly clean, eggs and oats for breakfast and the majority of my other meals consist of chicken, lean beef, brown rice, and steamed veggies. I know of a few people who have given me advise but would like a little more input. I'm looking at running Sustanon 250 at 500 a week running two injections. With that I was going to pick up Armidex, which is where one of my questions have come up. Some people have told me to run armidex the whole cycle, while some have said to start running it if I notice signs of gyno, any thoughts? For my PCT I would be running 4 weeks of clomid at 100 100 50 50 or 100 75 50 50. Also I will continue with my basics such as protiens, multi vits, fish oil... any other thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

 

[Yes]

Good post.. Sounds like you did your homework here... good for you.
You probly won't need that Armidex but if you do get advice first.
Clomid should be 50/50/50/50 12-14 days after your last injection.
That's a 12 week cycle right ?

 

[jrp77]

Yep sorry I knew I missed something 12 weeks for sure. And I did read the pct starts 2 weeks after last injection so thanks for the reminder. The PCT dosage and the armidex dosage is I guess where most of the differences I've seen come from. Also heard from some that runing nolva while on may not be a bad idea, though can possibly effect potency. If the armidex can be run when or if symptoms show I would prefer to wait to use it, though have it on hand just in case.

 

[Yes]

Nolvadex is more for ptc but some use it if they encounter some more serous gyno sides for a few weeks till they get their Aromatase inhibitor (AI) working.

Armidex dosage is .5mg every day for the full cycle. It needs to be tapered at the end 2 weeks into pct at .25mg every day to avoid estro rebound. Armidex is also good to battle water retention and people use it for just that reason tho it has many other good uses to prevent gyno in those who are prone to it and know why they are using it...

 

[jrp77]

Ok sounds good, so if you were to recomend armidex you would say .5 from day one then .25 for two weeks of the pct?

 

[Yes]

Yes and no... It would be better to see how you react to the Sustanon without it. If you don't get any sides then you know next time that you don't need it for test.

Let's say that you ran test this time with Armidex and it all went well.
Next time you ran test and deca with "No Armidex" but you got sides this time.
Now you don't know what is causing the sides. Is it test or deca .. see where I'm going ?

It's great that you have it on hand but it's even better if you don't need it....

 

[jrp77]

Sounds good! I'll pick some up and hold it just in case but we'll run it without this time and see how it goes. Looking to start in about 3 weeks so needless to say I'm getting reeeaaaally antsy ha ha

 

[jrp77]

Oh yeah also had one more question for anybody with some experience... I was planning on pinning my quads. If i'm running two a week thats one per quad per week, is that enough rotation or do I need to switch to my gluts too?

 

[akronica]

Oh yeah also had one more question for anybody with some experience... I was planning on pinning my quads. If i'm running two a week thats one per quad per week, is that enough rotation or do I need to switch to my gluts too?

I pinned test-e for 12 weeks using only quads without any problem or scar tissue buildup, but I should also mention that when I began doing test prop ED and was forced to shoot delts, I found that I vastly favor doing my shots there; perhaps you should dabble around a bit, you may find something more comfortable, especially if you have more cycles planned in the future.

 

[jrp77]

Good to know thanks, I may use my gluts too as I have a couple buddies who have been on I just get nervous about not being able to see as well myself ha... And I thought about delts but I do need to be mostly discreet on this as the girlfriend is basically on a dont ask dont tell policy and as long as she doesn't see injection sites she wont bother lol... Lookin like lights out in the bedroom for a few months

 

[akronica]

Good to know thanks, I may use my gluts too as I have a couple buddies who have been on I just get nervous about not being able to see as well myself ha... And I thought about delts but I do need to be mostly discreet on this as the girlfriend is basically on a dont ask dont tell policy and as long as she doesn't see injection sites she wont bother lol... Lookin like lights out in the bedroom for a few months

With a 25g, a couple hours after I pin, I couldn't tell you where I had put it in...

 

[jrp77]

Sounds good, did you use a 1' or 1.5'?

 

[akronica]

Sounds good, did you use a 1' or 1.5'?

1''.. I don't use 1.5'' for anything, glutes included.

 

[jrp77]

Sounds good I'll stick with the 1' then,
Thanks