First time running Tren. Questions

[BoyTurnsMan]

Hi all,

I am about to start my 3rd overall cycle and wants some pro advice/suggestions.

Cycle 1- sust 250 (500mg/wk) post cycle therapy (pct) clomid and nolva
Cycle 2- sust 350 (700mg/wk) (week 1-12) Anavar @ 50mg ED (week 6-12) nolva and HCG

Stats:

26 yrs old
185 lbs @ 8% BF
5 11'

Diet ex:

6/6:30am:
7 egg whites 2 full eggs, ezeiklebread toast with almond butter, hand full of blueberries

8:30/9am Protein shake with Oats

11am: Chicken breast and vegis w/ 1/2 sweet potato

2PM: Chicken brown rice banana greek yogurt

4PM (pre workout) 2 cans tuna, white rice, banana w/ almond butter.

Intra workout- 1 scoop xtend BCAA

7pm (post workout shake) 2 scoops dry gatorade, protein and scoop of BCAA

8:30pm Chicken or fish (occasional steak after leg day) Sweet potato and Green beans

10pm Casein or Whey shake w/ milk



Goals:

Gain mass and strength while hardening


10 week cycle.

tren Ace: weeks 1-8 @ 60mg EOD
test Prop weeks 1-10 100mg EOD
Anavar weeks 4-7 50mg ED weeks 8-11 80mg ED
HCG 250 iu 2x week throughout entire cycle plus blast post cycle of 250ED for 2 weeks

Have extra Adex on hand incase sides creep during cycle

post cycle therapy (pct):
Nolva w1 40ED w2 20ED w3 20ED w4 20ED w5 20ED w6 20ED
Adex .25 ED for 4 weeks
( I ran clomid my fist cycle and it was the worst experience. Depression/ anxiety/ anger horrible acne etd. ---- I will not run this again .. even when I lowered the dose I was pyscho.)
--I have heard not to run Adex with Nolva but please suggestions are welcome.
--I will also do HCG 2x a week during cycle and a blast Post cycle of 250 IU ED for 2 weeks (does this sound good?) -- I will have 5000 IUs of HCG left for my post cycle therapy (pct) and figured this would be a good way to use it.




Please let me know your thoughts -- First time trying tren and super excited/ scared.

--My worries are I am not running the correct mg of test/tren so please chime in.

--I have 2 vials of tren (1000mg each) and 4 vials of test (1000mg each)

--If there is a better dosage with what I have please let me know!



Thanks!

 

[Sharkweek]

you will want some sort of anti progesterone/prolactin.

Either caber or prami. You likely won't need a real strong dose, but I would def atleast have it on hand.

 

[One mo rep]

Yeah I was going to order caber but wasnt sure with such a low dose of Tren. DO you think the length of the cycle and dose is adequate? I am going to compete next summer, so wanted to try out tren now and will up the dose after post cycle therapy (pct). then lower it back down for competition prep.

 

[GoPro]

If you have never ran Tren before then i would suggest running 50mgs EOD for your first run or until you see how your body responds to it. It is to strong for some, and nothing for others. I dropped the tren i was running @ 50mgs EOD, because i didn't have sleeping pills and some xannies!!!! Sides can be a bear!!!

 

[Sharkweek]

My honest opinion on the cycle would be to try to add some legit size if you want to compete a year from now. I can understand wanting to try out the tren, but I would do it in a different fashion if it were me.

I'd probably drop the Anavar (var), and just add some more test/run the test longer. If the purpose is just to try out the tren I'd start out low (60mg EOD is fine, and maybe add 10mg each week up to like 100mg eod and see how you tolerate it. I feel like you need to better define your goals for this cycle, or you will likely not be happy with the result.

regarding the prami/caber, I'd get some on hand, but I'm pretty cautious when it comes to gyno/my dick working/having hormonal imbalances. You might be fine without any, but you don't really know that you need it until something is fucked up.

 

[jon emberlin]

Diet looks good.Might need caber might not.just do the tit test every week!!

 

[halfwit]

Great advice in here, I just want to add that many recommend starting low test/higher tren as some find the sides to be easier that way. 250-350mg/wk of test should be more than enough if you want to give this method a try with 200-450mg/wk of tren. Baby steps are definitely key here as the tren sneaks up on you like a hormonal ninja - and you're wondering wtf just happened.

I don't think the mental sides get enough limelight here as it's always the sweats or cough that folks worry about. Be sure you're in a stable place mentally before you start and that you can maintain your cool at all times. You might get lucky and not get hit with the mental sides, but there's nothing worse than losing it on loved ones/friends because you didn't anticipate this possibility.

My .02c

 

[jon emberlin]

Brother is talking truth...

 

[Rida5d]

Great advice in here, I just want to add that many recommend starting low test/higher tren as some find the sides to be easier that way. 250-350mg/wk of test should be more than enough if you want to give this method a try with 200-450mg/wk of tren. Baby steps are definitely key here as the tren sneaks up on you like a hormonal ninja - and you're wondering wtf just happened.

I don't think the mental sides get enough limelight here as it's always the sweats or cough that folks worry about. Be sure you're in a stable place mentally before you start and that you can maintain your cool at all times. You might get lucky and not get hit with the mental sides, but there's nothing worse than losing it on loved ones/friends because you didn't anticipate this possibility.

My .02c

I second that..
I read somewhere about one 300 lb bodybuilder who thought his wife was cheating on him cuz she came home earlier and he saw her car in the parking before than the usual time..lol
Right half?

 

[halfwit]

I second that..
I read somewhere about one 300 lb bodybuilder who thought his wife was cheating on him cuz she came home earlier and he saw her car in the parking before than the usual time..lol
Right half?

Nailed it on the head. I was ready to kill some imaginary guy when nothing was wrong. Stuff is no joke, that's for sure.

 

[BoyTurnsMan]

Well my plan is to try tren out this time around. I might drop the test down to 300 per week and run it for 12 weeks. I will follow through with my post cycle, then in December (given the tren doesnt fuck with me too bad) I want to up to 200 mg test EOD and 100 mg Tren EOD for 12 weeks. do some post cycle therapy (pct) then do another lower dose pre contest. (ie 150 test and 75 tren EOD for 12 more weeks). I need to grab some caber bfore i start this cycle though. Also, since clomid fucks with me way too bad, what would you suggest for post cycle therapy (pct)?

thx