First tren cycle coming up

[Strx]

What's up guys. Been off the juice for quite a while now, I've been spending more time at home and less in the gym. Becoming a father will do that to ya I suppose.
Lost some mass, gained some fat and lost some strenght aswell.

Anyway I've been working out hard again the last 7 months and getting close to where I was before. Now I mean to go beyond that and tren seems like the best way to get there.

So on to the good stuff:

Stats:
Height: 6'
Weight: 191lbs
Age: 27
Years training: 6
Cycles ran: 2 (12wk Sustanon 500mg/week, 8wk Test P/Mast P 100mg/EOD with some tbol)

Cycle:
Weeks 1-8: tren A: 125mg EOD
Weeks 1-8: Caber or prami??
Weeks 1-10: test P: 50mg EOD
Weeks 1-10: mast P: 125mg EOD

PCT
Weeks 12 - 15: clomid: 100-100-75-50
Weeks 12 - 15: anything else needed?

Is there anything else I should do? HGC? Do I need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for the low test dose or does the masteron have that covered? I also hear good things about vit b6 and vit e for prolactine when using tren.

Oh and about the tren dosage, should I start maybe at 75mg or 100mg eod to see how I react to it and increase from there?

Thanks in advance

 

[MustangDX]

You can stop the Tren A/Test P at the same time, they're both short esters. Definitely take Caber/Prami, Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and HCG. You need to add Nolva to your post cycle therapy (pct). The tren dosaging is entirely up to you. I personally started at 100mgs/EOD and worked my way up to 125mgs/EOD which is a nice first run with Tren A.

 

[skinnypete]

I wish i could do tren. But im sure it would be an all around bad idea

 

[halfwit]

I think it's too soon to be honest. I'd try deca first, so you at least have some experience with a 19-nor before you add all the nasty sides tren has to offer. Can it be ran as a 3rd cycle? Sure. But I do feel that the more experience you have prior to running tren, the better your experience will be.

My .02c

 

[enzo321]

You're sub 200lbs you have no business touching Tren.

 

[clman8585]

You're sub 200lbs you have no business touching Tren.

Do you even AAS?

 

[enzo321]

Do you even AAS?

When I meet his stats natty there's no reason for him to take Tren, and I have for medical purposes under medical supervision.

 

[Strx]

You can stop the Tren A/Test P at the same time, they're both short esters. Definitely take Caber/Prami, Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and HCG. You need to add Nolva to your post cycle therapy (pct). The tren dosaging is entirely up to you. I personally started at 100mgs/EOD and worked my way up to 125mgs/EOD which is a nice first run with Tren A.

Thanks mate

I think it's too soon to be honest. I'd try deca first, so you at least have some experience with a 19-nor before you add all the nasty sides tren has to offer. Can it be ran as a 3rd cycle? Sure. But I do feel that the more experience you have prior to running tren, the better your experience will be.

My .02c

Fair enough,
So possibly this:

Cycle:
Weeks 1-10: NPP: 125mg EOD
Weeks 1-10: Caber or prami?? - Wich and how much is recommended?
Weeks 1-10: test P: 50mg EOD
Weeks 1-10: mast P: 125mg EOD

PCT
Weeks 12 - 15: clomid: 100-100-75-50
Weeks 12 - 15: nolva 40-40-20-20

I allways thought nolva didn't go so well with 19-nor's.

 

[KingBF]

Thanks mate



Fair enough,
So possibly this:

Cycle:
Weeks 1-10: NPP: 125mg EOD
Weeks 1-10: Caber or prami?? - Wich and how much is recommended?
Weeks 1-10: test P: 50mg EOD
Weeks 1-10: mast P: 125mg EOD

PCT
Weeks 12 - 15: clomid: 100-100-75-50
Weeks 12 - 15: nolva 40-40-20-20

I allways thought nolva didn't go so well with 19-nor's.

if it was me id run the test p at 150mg EOD. never tried prami cause I heard about the nasty sides but ive used caber 3x's. caber .5mg 2x's a week

 

[KingBF]

planning on HCG? planning on AI? which and what doses

 

[Strx]

if it was me id run the test p at 150mg EOD. never tried prami cause I heard about the nasty sides but ive used caber 3x's. caber .5mg 2x's a week

planning on HCG? planning on AI? which and what doses

I've got arimidix and aromasin on hand, not sure what dose to use if I raise the prop to 150mg eod. Suggestions?
As for the HCG, I can get it, but again I'm not sure how to use it. Some claim it's better to use it after the cycle and others say to use it during.

 

[KingBF]

I've got arimidix and aromasin on hand, not sure what dose to use if I raise the prop to 150mg eod. Suggestions?
As for the HCG, I can get it, but again I'm not sure how to use it. Some claim it's better to use it after the cycle and others say to use it during.

150mg eod of prop I would run 25mg of aromasin ed and adjust from there. I personally hate adex. it destroys my joints at any dose but everyone is different.
hcg should be run on cycle at 250iu 2x's a week and run it all the way through and stop 4 days prior to starting post cycle therapy (pct). running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at the end only is like putting your seatbelt on after a car crash.