First Tren cycle, not my first cycle though

[tkhalimvoa]

Hey,

28 years old
212lbs
~13% BF
3 cycles under my belt
1st and 2nd Test E only, 3rd Test E and Deca

This is my fourth cycle Test Prop and Tren
Weeks 1-8 Test Prop 100mg EOD
Weeks 1 Tren Ace 50mg EOD
Weeks 2-8 Tren Ace 100mg EOD

I dosed week 1 of tren to 50 EOD to test the sides, week two started and I dosed in at 100 and had insomnia, stomach pains, my appetite completely crashed. I went down to about .70 and the insomnia is gone, but appetite and stomach issues are still ongoing. I am only in week 2 and I already have a limp dick. The libido is there but its really hard getting hard (pun intended). I am used to taking Test E, so maybe I wasnt read for the prop to kick in so fast? I only started my AI this week 12.5 aromasin EOD (I typically waited for sides to start this on the previous cycles).

My PCT is scheduled to be Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 50/50/50/50. HCG at 500 2x a week. Caber on hand.

I usually look forward to morning wood, but no signs of this. Any idea as to what might be going on? I am absolutely willing to abort, but if there is something I can modify to run this cycle and fix my stomach and dick I am open ears. The misses is not impressed with me, especially because with the previous cycles I was a beast and was pumping her up for the sex. Oh yeah diet is in check, she's a nutritionist so I am living the life.

Thanks!

 

[3J]

im guessing youre not taking an estrogen blocker or dop ag?

 

[tkhalimvoa]

im guessing youre not taking an estrogen blocker or dop ag?

Just taking aromasin, haven't used the caber yet. From what I read my dosage would be to low to use it from the start. I am worried I can't eat now, so no point in running gear if I can get my cals and macros in.

 

[3J]

you shouldnt' be having stomach issues on tren...

i would start the dop ag at a low dosage.. i bet you most of your sides will go away...

or you could just drop back to 50 eod.. its not a horrible dose with something as powerful as tren

 

[tkhalimvoa]

you shouldnt' be having stomach issues on tren...

i would start the dop ag at a low dosage.. i bet you most of your sides will go away...

or you could just drop back to 50 eod.. its not a horrible dose with something as powerful as tren

Thanks. I already lowered my most recent dosage, and tomorrow again plan to do the same. It's not the end of the world for me. would you agree to wait out one more week of 50 eod before the cab? I did read a few forums where people said they were taking Zantac, but like you said many said there shouldn't be stomach issues with ten. I wasn't expecting it so it caught me off guard. What do you think about the limp dick? Should I not be waking not with wood or at the very least get it up? Should I up my prop? Also learnt prop and tren pip hurts a lot! Walking like I took a bat to my legs.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Thanks. I already lowered my most recent dosage, and tomorrow again plan to do the same. It's not the end of the world for me. would you agree to wait out one more week of 50 eod before the cab? I did read a few forums where people said they were taking Zantac, but like you said many said there shouldn't be stomach issues with ten. I wasn't expecting it so it caught me off guard. What do you think about the limp dick? Should I not be waking not with wood or at the very least get it up? Should I up my prop? Also learnt prop and tren pip hurts a lot! Walking like I took a bat to my legs.

Either your e2's high or your prolactins high. Considering your not taking a DA it's probably the prolactin. Start your caber at a lowish dose like 3J said, and slowly ramp it up. Dick should be fine in a week or two. You really should get bloods though to figure out what's really going on.

 

[halfwit]

Either your e2's high or your prolactins high. Considering your not taking a DA it's probably the prolactin. Start your caber at a lowish dose like 3J said, and slowly ramp it up. Dick should be fine in a week or two. You really should get bloods though to figure out what's really going on.

I bet it's both estradiol and as a byproduct, prolactin. Aromasin should be run ED, but I'd get a private blood test to verify before changing anything. Labsmd will have your results usually within a week, I'd start there.

I do sometimes get heart burn and upset stomach from tren. Anything liver toxic can mess with appetite, are you taking liver support like NAC?

 

[Das Pump]

Just taking aromasin, haven't used the caber yet. From what I read my dosage would be to low to use it from the start. I am worried I can't eat now, so no point in running gear if I can get my cals and macros in.

I'm currently running my first tren cycle. I'm running test e at 300mgs/wk and I started low tren ace as well at 75mgs eod. I'm now up to 125mgs eod
I jumped up 25mgs per stick every 2 weeks as long as I didn't see harsh sides
I started out taking caber at .25mgs twice a week and I have had next to no sides compared to most. I get warm at night but not like most report and I lost some appetite but I've been force feeding. Gotta just shovel it in! Loss of appetite is normal. Once u start your caber start low dose. I got rashes on my elbows and thought it was from the tren but it wasn't. I cut caber for a week and they went away, so I then ran it at .25 mgs once a week to see if anything negative happened and it didn't. I just can't tolerate twice a week so I'm running once a week. Caber has been known to stop or minimize a lot of sides though it's taken primarily for stopping the production of prolactin.

If your stomach pains and nasty sides don't go away I would recommend not running tren again. It's a harsh chemical and if it's any type of allergic reaction then every time u run it will have worse reactions and push u closer to anaphactic shock. Monitor your sides closely bro.

Oh and also I didn't really notice any gains until I was pushing 125 mgs a week. Once I started doing that size and pumps just went off the charts. I did arms today (I hate doing arms because I think it's dumb compared to mass body movements) and I noticed on both biceps I have stretch marks that I never had. They seem to hide very well when my pump goes away but when it comes back they r obvious, so that shows how potent the pumps are.

Again bro just be careful because you are dealing with a harsh chemical. Good luck!