First Tren Cycle

[Dallen]

Hey guys

Looking for some advice on my first Tren cycle. This will be my 3rd cycle and here is some info

Stats:

6"2 230lbs ~15% BF 24 years old

I Have been lifting for around 5 years solid... Diet is in check with a cheat meal every once in a while and always learning as much as possible from 3J. Will plan on keeping carbs relatively low with high protein and moderate fats.

cycle experience:

1st 500 mg/week test eth 1-10 weeks

2nd 750 mg/week test prop 1-12
80 mg/d Anavar (var) 1-12

Both cycles had a good PCT 40/40/20/20 Nolva and 100/100/50/50 Clomid... Didn't run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) but I am considering it this time

For this cycle I am thinking of running test prop, tren acetate and possibly adding some Anavar (var) as I have some sitting around

Little confused on the dosage, Have read alot of different things... test higher than tren, test lower then tren and test the same as tren.

I am leaning towards 350mg/week test prop 1-12 (100 eod)
525 mg/week tren acetate 1-10 (150 eod) ( thinking this may be high, maybe 125 eod)
50-75 mg/ed Anavar (Maybe)

PCT
100/100/50/50 Clomid
I have prami and aromasin that I assume I should run throughout the cycle just looking for a dosage,
Also thinking 250 iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) X2 /week (when would I start this and finish)

Is that tren dose a little too high? I could also Pin ED if it is advised. I assume the sides would be less as blood levels would be more stable. Thinking about dropping the Anavar (var) as I wanna feel the Tren working!! All the gear will be from Pinnacle so I assume It is G2G. Prami and aromasin will be from RUI.

Hope I haven't forgot anything.

Anyways open to all suggestions and thank for all the help guys!!

 

[filthybeats]

Looks like a great cycle man! I will be running the same cycle without the var, pretty soon hopefully. Keep a log if you would.

 

[UserAt204]

Eh, first time go with 500-600 prop, 400-500 tren.

Or tp/tren a 1ml each eod, that's all you will need. Yes add the var, but don't get caught up in thinking there are rules and you should run high doses of tren especially your first time. L eod gives you 350 a week, that's all the tren you need. Don't rush into a higher dose.

Diet can't be to "on point" with the bf, but I guess if you are with 3J then you are working on it, just remember you still need a high and med high carb day when lifting large muscle groups but I have no idea what your diet looks like.

So just go 1ml tren a eod, and prop, 350-500 a week, plus Anavar (var). use a low dose AI.

 

[filthybeats]

Eh, first time go with 500-600 prop, 400-500 tren.

I've heard more experienced users say to keep the tren higher than the test. Dallen your current doses sound great. In january I plan on starting with about 250 mg of test prop per week and 450 mg of tren a per week, will move up from there if i need to.

 

[MeatHead96]

525mg seems like too much for a first tren cycle. I'd go with 350mg to start. I prefer to run my test lower than my tren but you don't have to do it that way. I think 350 prop/350 tren ace would be pretty good. You can always increase the tren into the cycle if you really want to but you shouldn't need that much on a first run with it.

 

[colorado75]

Hi- Tren is AMAZING in my opinion. I ran it on my third cycle - there was a LONG gap between my 2nd and 3rd cycle and I was blown away by it. Decrease in body fat was nuts and my change in overall appearance...drop in body fat gain in muscle....net lose was 25 lbs. I was dieting very strictly, zero booze, and 4 AM runs along with p90x - 3 months. I ran Tren E for 8 weeks with Test Prop 12 weeks, Anavar (var) 6 weeks, and T3 and Clen (3 weeks - hated clen). I just started my fourth cycle which is:

1-10 test testosterone propionate 75 mg day
2-9 trenbolone ace 50 mg day
1-10 mast testosterone propionate 75 mg day
2-10 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
2-8 caber .5 mg e3d
3-12 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500ius week

PCT
11-14 clomid 25/25/25/25
11-14 Unleashed/post cycle combo
11-14 forma stanzol
11-14 daa powerchews or powder

I was considering Anavar (var) over Mast but all of the trusted sources I have on the various boards suggested Mast over Anavar (var) for a cutting cycle. I was surprised by this but I am no expert. I must say I am very tempted to go higher on Tren as I was on 150 EOD of Tren E last cycle.....probably too much for a first timer....most would say that it was WAY more than I needed but who knows. I am thinking of going to 65 ED of Tren A instead of 50 ED but I am not certain yet.

Good luck brother! Enjoy the tren! Be tough through the night sweats...they suck but overall its sweet.

 

[tailhold]

At whatever dose you decide, I would use the tren ace everyday. I would suggest 75 to 100mg a day.

 

[losieloos]

Why not just start off tren low at 200 and add more if you need it

 

[tailhold]

Why not just start off tren low at 200 and add more if you need it

Sure, a lot of guys like low dose tren and it works wonders for them but I would still divide that into everyday inj. I found for me the bad sides just went away even on pretty high doses, I also like to drop my test dosage down a little when I use tren.

 

[Repo]

You can start off low - and increase your tren based on response and results.

My tren cycle's have been tren enanthate and test-e and here is what I've found...

Both - "test and tren" - compete for the same androgen receptors so you really
want more dry lean gains from tren over test.

Once I've learned how my body reacted from tren - I've changed the doses as
follows...

Test-e 750mg and tren-e 400mg was the first tren cycle... then I flip-flopped the doses.

Next cycle ... "test-e 400 and tren-e 800" - Much better results!

 

[Dallen]

Thanks for all the responses guys!! I think I will be sticking with Tren higher than test. Probably use 350 mg/week prop with 437.5 mg/week Tren. Shooting ED. Question on prami? It's ran Ed before bed correct? What dose? And when do I start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? 2 weeks in? Might skip the Anavar (var) this time round. Also will run a little aromasin to keep e on control. It shouldn't be a problem with this low test I assume. Any more comments/ suggestions?