Firt cycle thoughts and opinions

[Docd187]

Hello everyone, I've been a longtime lurker on here and finally bit the bullet and ordered my first cycle. I'm posting to see everyone's thoughts and opinions and see if I might have missed anything.

About me: I'm 28yo 5ft10in tall 190lbs been training on and off since 15yo seriously for the last ~5yrs. I had to take time off, about 7months, to let a knee knee injury heal and now I'm back in the gym. I have ordered the cycle but do not plan on running it for a couple months until I get back in the swing of things and drop some body fat first. I ordered test e, arimidex, nolva, and clomid. Having said that any advice is appreciated. My cycle will be as follows.

Weeks 1-16: Test Enanthate 2/250mg pins Mon & Thurs total 500mg/wk
Weeks 3-18: Arimidex 0.25-0.50mg EOD or as necessitated by gyno and water weight symptoms
Weeks 18-22: Nolvadex 20mg ED
Weeks 18-22: Clomid 50mg ED

Right now I plan on getting my lifts back to where they were while eating at or slightly under maintenance. About 2 weeks before I start the cycle I'll switch over to a bulk with a roughly ~500 calorie surplus. I plan in using 1.5in 23G needles to pin and an 18G to pull and 1cc syringes. My sister being diabetic, has offered to let me use some of her diabetic needles but unless they're much better I'd rather not use her needles even though she has way too many for her own use. I plan to pin on Mondays and Thursdays, take Adex on cycle and use clomid and nolva for post cycle therapy (pct).

Long read I know lol. So that basically is my plan, again for a couple months down the road not just yet. Anyone have any advice or pointers for me that I might have missed of not thought of? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.


*edit I should also add I plan on following the steps by blondie bombshell to get cheap bloodwork done by labcorp. Is the basic female hormone panel fine of should I get any additional panels. I'd do one blood test before cycle and one a few weeks after pct.

 

[a7x411]

Nolvadex and clomid 40/40/20/20
Everything else is say looks okay.
You could run hcg if you want or blast it right before post cycle therapy (pct). up to you.

 

[Docd187]

Nolvadex and clomid 40/40/20/20
Everything else is say looks okay.
You could run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) if you want or blast it right before post cycle therapy (pct). up to you.

So you recommend tapering the douses of clomid and nolva? Also I've been advised to keep my first cycle simple by crazymike and other seasoned members. So they recommended I don't try orals or Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for the first cycle. I appreciate your response brother.

 

[Strong Man]

So you recommend tapering the douses of clomid and nolva? Also I've been advised to keep my first cycle simple by crazymike and other seasoned members. So they recommended I don't try orals or Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for the first cycle. I appreciate your response brother.

yes taper your pct
Also I would run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 250iu every 3 to 4 days.

 

[TitaniumDog]

Fuck...good newb (pat pat)...lol
I hate seeing 150# guys wanting to use gear...uhg...

 

[a7x411]

you dont have to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) but id recommend it, it helps with bouncing back, helps with keeping your gains, and keeps your body producing its natural test.
the way i see it, its easier to stay filled up then try and fill them back up at the end.

 

[Docd187]

yes taper your pct
Also I would run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 250iu every 3 to 4 days.

I've read that Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is counter-productive to run during cycle but to use clomid on cycle to help with hpta and teste function instead. Def worth another look and some more research. Thanks for the insight.

 

[Docd187]

Fuck...good newb (pat pat)...lol
I hate seeing 150# guys wanting to use gear...uhg...

Lmao!!! Yes I'm certainly a newb to cycles but to the gym I'm not. I'm pretty bulky and this is not expected to be a miracle, merely a supplement to everything else I.e. training diet rest

 

[Docd187]

you dont have to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) but id recommend it, it helps with bouncing back, helps with keeping your gains, and keeps your body producing its natural test.
the way i see it, its easier to stay filled up then try and fill them back up at the end.

I already received my order u fortunately but I plan on doing more reading before starting my cycle. If I decide to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on cycle I'll order some. I don't plan on starting the gear for at least another month or so. Thanks again brother

 

[Docd187]

And now another general question: any good info on needles and such? 18G to draw and 23G to pin? 1ml syringes? Should I get different syringes for the Arimidex or can I pin with the same needles?

 

[a7x411]

Never NEVER re use a needle. Sterility is the most important thing. Use whatever gauge you want. I use 23 or 25 gauge. 3cc syringes. 1-1 1/4 needles

 

[hardtarget]

I would INCREASE the dosages on the post cycle therapy (pct) items....other than that everything looks good.

 

[Docd187]

Never NEVER re use a needle. Sterility is the most important thing. Use whatever gauge you want. I use 23 or 25 gauge. 3cc syringes. 1-1 1/4 needles

Def never reuse the same needles. Never. I probably worded that wrong. I meant can I pin the Arimidex with the same kind of needles that I'm pinning the test with?

My gear came in yesterday and I'm giddy like a little teenage girl haha. I won't be starting for another month or so, so I have plenty of time to get everything ready like needles, alcohol wipes etc.

Some pics of the gear:

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[Docd187]

I'm bumping this as the pins and syringes will be arriving today and I have another question. My plan was to run test e 500mg/wk for 16wks which comes out to 8000mg total of test over that span. That leaves me with 8ml of left over test if my math is right, almost a full bottle. I'd prefer to use it all instead of lettin it sit and go to waste so what options do I have here? Can I bump the weekly dosage to 625/wk (bottle comes in 250mg/ml solution) over 16wks which will use all the test, should I bump up the first few weeks more as a kickstart of sorts, bump up the dosage of the last few weeks, make the cycle 18weeks and have a little left over? I would guess that doing 625mg/wk for 16weks would be the best way to go. Opinions from more knowledgeable ppl??

 

[ronrr]

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[Docd187]

Another status update and bump: got my syringes and needles in, went with 3cc syringes and 20G 1.25" for drawing and 25G 1.25" for pinning. I also got some clen and t3 from RUI and was thinking of running a cycle of those on during the test cycle. Thinking about starting the clen and t3 at around 75mcg and going up or down depending on sides. I also got the requisition form for my blood test at labcorp. Doing the female hormone panel with male reference ranges tomorrow bright and early. Right after that it will be a big breakfast and my first pin of the cycle (will pin on Tues and Sat since those are my toughest gym days. I'll try and put up some stats and pics of the before to compare with later and I'll post up the results of the bloodwork to see what everyone thinks.

 

[Docd187]

Went to labcorp this morning and it took an hour and a half to get my blood drawn which didn't start my day off well haha. Anyway went home, had a big breakfast of eggs, oatmeal, and mixed berries. Went ahead and pinned my first shot of test e. ~1.25cc at 250mg/ml. Everything went smoothly. Alcohol pads, pins, syringe, aspiration etc tried doing everything by the book. No problems and no blood in the syringe (went with my quad for the first pin). Now off to the gym to train my ass off today: heavy squats, military presses, dead lifts, dips and some accessory arm and an work followed by stretching and maybe cardio if I have the time. Can't wait to start seeing results in a few short weeks. To everyone who has helped me, I thank you. I will keep this updated as best I can but now it's time to turn on beast mode lol.

 

[imdenis]

your cycle will most likely be 15 weeks, just because it says youll have 16 weeks worth if you do the math, chances are you'll add a little extra in some and you'll end up with 14-15 weeks depending on how much extra you draw, plus they're not all even, if you compare vials side by side youll see that some have a little more then others

 

[Brizza60]

Def never reuse the same needles. Never. I probably worded that wrong. I meant can I pin the Arimidex with the same kind of needles that I'm pinning the test with?

My gear came in yesterday and I'm giddy like a little teenage girl haha. I won't be starting for another month or so, so I have plenty of time to get everything ready like needles, alcohol wipes etc.

Some pics of the gear:

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Your Adex should be taken orally you do not pin adex.

 

[Docd187]

your cycle will most likely be 15 weeks, just because it says youll have 16 weeks worth if you do the math, chances are you'll add a little extra in some and you'll end up with 14-15 weeks depending on how much extra you draw, plus they're not all even, if you compare vials side by side youll see that some have a little more then others

Yes you're absolutely right. I went a little past the 1.2cc mark and just tried to eyeball 1.25cc but obviously every time will be a little bit different since the graduations on the syringe are tenths. I'm fine with it being 14 or 15 weeks bc I originally planned a 16wk cycle at 500mg/wk but now I have a slightly higher weekly dosage at around 625mg/wk so a shorter cycle somewhat balances that out. This is my first cycle so it's a learning opportunity for me. To see how my body reacts to pure test, to learn about signs of onset of potential sides like estrogen, and to learn what to do in case those sides come. I'm here to learn with an open mind brother.