Brat
PiNCHe GRiNGa!
My gym sells this...is this something I should look into??
http://www.country-life.com/moreinfo.cfm?Category=9&Product_ID=360
http://www.country-life.com/moreinfo.cfm?Category=9&Product_ID=360
Flax Oil vs. Fish Oil?
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John Benz
Community Veteran
First... Fish oil is the gold standard in reduction of inflammation through the entire body. Why? EPA inhibits 5 desaturase from converting DHGLA to arachidonic acid and then blocks the COX 2 step to convert to prostaglandin E2, thromboxanes, and blocks 5LOX from making leukotrienes.
Next insulin shunts EPA's inhibition of this enzyme so eating lots of starchy or sugary foods increases OMEGA 6 conversion to DHGLA- AA- PE2 - Leukotrienes.
Fish oil and flax oil are both good. The reason flax works well is because of the lignans and its EFA profile. Lignans also block DHGLA. Fish oil works by brute force of EPA.
Both are good but for different reasons.
Fish oil is important because many individuals need EPA and DHA for brains, joints skin et all and have an abundance of Omega 6 fats in their diets already.
It also takes 5 enzymes to convert ALA to EPA and another couple of enzymes to Convery EPA to DHA.
Too many Omega 6 fats , which are found in flax, overpower the Omega 3 side and the ratio gets out of tilt.
Both inhibit inflammation, but the research shows that EPA in fish oil is the gold standard, and there are about 1000 or so studies showing its effectiveness.
Fish oil, not cod liver oil, is used for neurological disorders due to the high DHA level. Doctors have had remarkable success with Manic Depression, Bipolar Disorder, Depression, Learning difficulties, ADHD, Alzeimers, Dementia and Cognitive disorders including aphasia.
Use fish oil in tandem with Flax for the nervous system.
Recommend Fish oil dose(2g-4g ED)
Use both, its a win-win situation....
Next insulin shunts EPA's inhibition of this enzyme so eating lots of starchy or sugary foods increases OMEGA 6 conversion to DHGLA- AA- PE2 - Leukotrienes.
Fish oil and flax oil are both good. The reason flax works well is because of the lignans and its EFA profile. Lignans also block DHGLA. Fish oil works by brute force of EPA.
Both are good but for different reasons.
Fish oil is important because many individuals need EPA and DHA for brains, joints skin et all and have an abundance of Omega 6 fats in their diets already.
It also takes 5 enzymes to convert ALA to EPA and another couple of enzymes to Convery EPA to DHA.
Too many Omega 6 fats , which are found in flax, overpower the Omega 3 side and the ratio gets out of tilt.
Both inhibit inflammation, but the research shows that EPA in fish oil is the gold standard, and there are about 1000 or so studies showing its effectiveness.
Fish oil, not cod liver oil, is used for neurological disorders due to the high DHA level. Doctors have had remarkable success with Manic Depression, Bipolar Disorder, Depression, Learning difficulties, ADHD, Alzeimers, Dementia and Cognitive disorders including aphasia.
Use fish oil in tandem with Flax for the nervous system.
Recommend Fish oil dose(2g-4g ED)
Use both, its a win-win situation....
John Benz
Community Veteran
Hemp Oil
While Fish oil is certainly the gold standard for fatty oils, Hemp oil is the unsurpassed finest plant source for EFA. Hemp oil contains all 3 omegas- 3,6,9 in their proper ratios. This makes hemp a complete fat. In addition hemp oil also contains smaller amounts of 3 other unsturated fats in GLA oleic acid and stearidonic acid. This EFA combination is not only unique in the vegetable kingdom, but indispensable for cell growth, circulation, immune function, healthy skin, and the prevention of degenerative diseases.
Hemp oil is considered to be the optiumum requirement for long term human consumption. Continuous use of flax oil has caused concern about an imbalance of EFA in the body. Hemp oil can be used without worries.
While Fish oil is certainly the gold standard for fatty oils, Hemp oil is the unsurpassed finest plant source for EFA. Hemp oil contains all 3 omegas- 3,6,9 in their proper ratios. This makes hemp a complete fat. In addition hemp oil also contains smaller amounts of 3 other unsturated fats in GLA oleic acid and stearidonic acid. This EFA combination is not only unique in the vegetable kingdom, but indispensable for cell growth, circulation, immune function, healthy skin, and the prevention of degenerative diseases.
Hemp oil is considered to be the optiumum requirement for long term human consumption. Continuous use of flax oil has caused concern about an imbalance of EFA in the body. Hemp oil can be used without worries.
caladin
-Flesh Eater-
Madine and ArmyBrat,
Fish Oil perferably from salmon is the best. Here is some links to referance.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=644939
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=622578
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=683891
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=460269
Salmon is incredibly rich in Omega-3 fatty acids, which, because of modern food processing and McDonald's, are becoming increasingly rare in our diets. If you include more Omega 3's in the diet — from either salmon or fish oil capsules — you can expect some incredible things to happen to your body.
For one, you could very well get leaner, as a number of studies have shown that a diet rich in Omega 3 fatty acids can increase the production of a number of important mitochondrial enzymes that play a part in fat oxidation. In fact, some of the changes seen in mitochondria are very similar to what you might see in a person who just started doing Tae-bo or aerobics of any kind.
Furthermore, these Omega 3's seem to have potent anti-inflammatory effects, which could lead to relief of asthma and various musculoskeletal problems such as tendonitis. How much? Well, occasional T-mag contributor Eric Noreen recommends as much as 10 grams per day, derived from either Salmon, fish oil capsules, or other dietary sources such as canola oil (which contains smaller, but still respectable amounts of omega-3's). Personally, however, for the reasons stated above, I avoid all supermarket oils.
Let me know if this doesnt answer it...
Fish Oil perferably from salmon is the best. Here is some links to referance.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=644939
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=622578
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=683891
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=460269
Salmon is incredibly rich in Omega-3 fatty acids, which, because of modern food processing and McDonald's, are becoming increasingly rare in our diets. If you include more Omega 3's in the diet — from either salmon or fish oil capsules — you can expect some incredible things to happen to your body.
For one, you could very well get leaner, as a number of studies have shown that a diet rich in Omega 3 fatty acids can increase the production of a number of important mitochondrial enzymes that play a part in fat oxidation. In fact, some of the changes seen in mitochondria are very similar to what you might see in a person who just started doing Tae-bo or aerobics of any kind.
Furthermore, these Omega 3's seem to have potent anti-inflammatory effects, which could lead to relief of asthma and various musculoskeletal problems such as tendonitis. How much? Well, occasional T-mag contributor Eric Noreen recommends as much as 10 grams per day, derived from either Salmon, fish oil capsules, or other dietary sources such as canola oil (which contains smaller, but still respectable amounts of omega-3's). Personally, however, for the reasons stated above, I avoid all supermarket oils.
Let me know if this doesnt answer it...
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caladin
-Flesh Eater-
On one hand, you’ve got your "bad" fats, like saturated fat. Actually, a little saturated fat is okay as part of a healthy diet and has been linked to increased Testosterone levels. Still, you don’t need to be eating lard with a spoon. The "good" fats are where you should really focus your diet. Take, for example, polyunsaturated fats like omega-3 and omega-6.
Most of us get enough omega-6 fats, which are found in vegetable oil, corn oil, safflower oil, peanut oil, sunflower oil, and sesame oil, but very few get enough omega-3s. These fatty acids have a plethora of benefits including improved cardiovascular health, decreased muscle soreness, and reduced blood pressure. They can even increase insulin sensitivity and may improve mood in very large dosages.
Where do you find omega-3s? Flaxseed oil, canola oil, walnut oil, and green leafy vegetables all have omega-3s, but I prefer fish oil myself. Why not the ever popular flax oil? Flax is fine, but its source of omega-3s comes from LNA (alpha-linolenic acid). Once in the body, LNA is converted to EPA and DHA, known in scientific circles as "the good shit."
Now, this is just a theory (and not one of mine), but some say this conversion can be inefficient, meaning you may need to take in more flax than you think to see benefits. With fish oil, there’s no conversion necessary since the fish take care of that in their own scaly bodies. So with fish oil, you’re getting nothing but EPA and DHA. For that reason, plus a few more, I prefer fish oil to flax.
Most of us get enough omega-6 fats, which are found in vegetable oil, corn oil, safflower oil, peanut oil, sunflower oil, and sesame oil, but very few get enough omega-3s. These fatty acids have a plethora of benefits including improved cardiovascular health, decreased muscle soreness, and reduced blood pressure. They can even increase insulin sensitivity and may improve mood in very large dosages.
Where do you find omega-3s? Flaxseed oil, canola oil, walnut oil, and green leafy vegetables all have omega-3s, but I prefer fish oil myself. Why not the ever popular flax oil? Flax is fine, but its source of omega-3s comes from LNA (alpha-linolenic acid). Once in the body, LNA is converted to EPA and DHA, known in scientific circles as "the good shit."
Now, this is just a theory (and not one of mine), but some say this conversion can be inefficient, meaning you may need to take in more flax than you think to see benefits. With fish oil, there’s no conversion necessary since the fish take care of that in their own scaly bodies. So with fish oil, you’re getting nothing but EPA and DHA. For that reason, plus a few more, I prefer fish oil to flax.
