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hello ladies and gentlemen. right firstly little about myself,im 22 been training for 4 years now, weight training and boxing but had to stop boxing due to wrist problems but there all good now so starting up next month! im 6'1 and weighing in at 195lbs.

on to the interesting stuff lol, after toying with the idea and putting it off till i was older ive finally gone and done it, bought a course :spin:

i know il get bitched at for what ive bought but its all my man could get hold of! i had some dbol laying around from a couple of months ago but never took them so going to kick start with them, i have sus250 and deca.

was going to run the dbol weeks 1-4, the sus at 500mg divided into 2 shots pw weeks 1-12, and deca at 200mg weeks 1-10!

PCT ive got nolvadex and clomid, wasnt sure wether to run nolva throughout or wait to see any signs of sides?? or just leave them till after last inj?

i train hard 5\6 days a week, also going to be doing my boxing 2/3 times a week. i will start recording my weights as of monday.

BREAKFAST 5 egg whites, oats with milk and mixed nuts.

MIDMORN tin of tuna and protein shake

LUNCH chicken breast with rice or pasta with veg

MID AFTERNOON tin of tuna

protein shake 15 mins before training

WORKOUT

post workout shake

DINNER chicken/ steak/ fish. turkey with rice/pasta and veg

BEFORE BED cottage cheese (disgusting lol)


took my first injection today (sus) was going to shoot sus and deca sunday? so if you have any questions or tips please feel free to tell me!!

also the sus seemed quite thick to draw out and inject, someone has told me to warm it in hot water to adjust viscosity is this correct?? also what sort of gains will i be looking at? i know its hard to say!

thanks for any feed back :wiggle:
 
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sweet cheers mate, also for doing the deca and sus will that be 2 seperate shots or can you mix it and do it in one?? thanks
 
sure, i mix my every test e shot with hcg
and maybe ur havin problems drawing because your usin the same needle for shootin in your ass
 
yeh ive only got the blue needles? guessing the thinner needles makes it harder to draw it up? put it in my quad weird feeling!! shot this morning only a dull ache is it going to be hurting in the morning lol??
 
bro dont run the nolva with deca! can cause some problems. try and get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like lectro arimidex or aromasin. bro and i wouldnt bother with the deca anyways. you will get great results from test and dbol. just try and run the test for 12 weeks atleast at the doses you have said. also if your using HCG i would start running it until week 5. and post cycle therapy (pct) is clomid 50/50/50/50 2 weeks after last shot, but if you leave out the deca the alternative post cycle therapy (pct) would be nolva 40/40/20/20.
 
welcome, and good luck!

should be fine with just test and dbol, hold off on the deca for a future cycle.
 
thanks for the replies guys, just woken up and my quad feels like ive done a monster legworkout, is that the sort of pain you should feel the next day? just wanted to know with it being the first hit! so if i should use more sus what sort of dosage? 750 a week? as my body is new to it wasnt sure if it would not need as much to get decent results?
 
From what I've read I wouldn't run deca especially since it is your first cycle. Deca will shut you down hard. It's your first cycle make it a good one you don't want to have deca dick and be walking around with a limp one. Just take the sust, it bieng your first cycle that's all you will need.
 
i took my first injection on wednesday morning and my leg is still sore? its getting better everyday but is it normal to hurt this long when first starting out? i didnt heat the sus to change viscosity so it was quite thick, will it help to ease pain if its thinner on sunday?? thanksss
 
howdy, just a quick up date! im LOVING IT lol. ive put 5 kgs on in 3 weeks and my body fat doesnt seem to have gone up, if anything looking leaner, havent got the calipers out yet. everyone in the gym is commenting on what ive been taking etc, and absolutly loving smashing the wieghts every night! the pumps are unreal now! all my weights are going up and this is just after week 3! i think most of it is from the dbol so roll on when the sus kicks in! also does any of your sponsers sell Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to the uk?? thanks guys
 
Happy to hear your making progress.Keep it up bro,train hard.
What your definitely feeling is both dbol and the sus.Sustanon has 1 short,2 med,and 1 long so the propoinate is def taking effect.Youll be in full swing in a week or so,really starting to see the gains.Keep protein intake high,hit the weights and sleep.Cheers bro

As for RUI delivering to UK?I dont know hit up there banner.Im sure they do.
 
This is to much for your first cycle....

I know you are excited but you should slow down bro....but it looks like you are committed to it now...

bro dont run the nolva with deca! can cause some problems. try and get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like lectro arimidex or aromasin. bro and i wouldnt bother with the deca anyways. you will get great results from test and dbol. just try and run the test for 12 weeks atleast at the doses you have said. also if your using HCG i would start running it until week 5. and PCT is clomid 50/50/50/50 2 weeks after last shot, but if you leave out the deca the alternative PCT would be nolva 40/40/20/20.

Yep... no dang Nolva with your Deca...Get some Clomid for PCT. If you need to control estrogen during your cycle run a Aromatase inhibitor (AI). You can order from RUI^^^banner above. I prefer Aromasin.

thanks for the replies guys, just woken up and my quad feels like ive done a monster legworkout, is that the sort of pain you should feel the next day? just wanted to know with it being the first hit! so if i should use more sus what sort of dosage? 750 a week? as my body is new to it wasnt sure if it would not need as much to get decent results?

No just run 500mg a week for your first cycle. The rest your body wont be able to use and it will be a waste of good gear...

From what I've read I wouldn't run deca especially since it is your first cycle. Deca will shut you down hard. It's your first cycle make it a good one you don't want to have deca dick and be walking around with a limp one. Just take the sust, it bieng your first cycle that's all you will need.

Deca dick is usually not a problem when running it with Test and your Dosage is under 400mg. I highly doubt he'd get deca dick... As fare as it shutting him down the Dbol and/or Test will do that.
He'll run HCG to keep his Testes running to help speed recovery/PCT

i dont think 200mg a week of deca will do much at all-as far as gains go

Gains would be minimal but would keep his joints and connective tissues healthy during his cycle.
 
thanks for your replies guys! just to let you know i didnt run the deca anyways, i decided against it after your advise! so its just the sus and dbol, and my dbol will run out this week so it will be just the sus! hopefully my strength doesnt drop next week!!

had a birthday weekend away with the boys so my diet was pretty crap and too much alcohol so going to get down the shop and stock up on lots of protein and carbs and eat like a horse to make up for lost time!! i trained legs last night, weights went up on everything except press, which was down 30! maybe it was the weekend away or overtrained not sure! but im determined next week to get my weights back on there!!

thanks again guys
 
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