Gear and genetics

[Justusgreen]

I have been coming to this site for over a year now just soaking up info like a sponge, I've seen the good, the bad and the ugly onhere. This is by far the most informative site I have found. One subject I can't recall seeing on here is one about gear and people's genetics. Like all suppliments, (I assume gear is no different) people's bodies can only go so far while on steroids. I have read books and artticles by Arnold and he talks about genetics quite a bit. What I want to know is what do you guys think about people being limited by their genetic potential? Or do you think it is possible for a person to break thru that genetic bearier? If you look at guys like Scott Steiner from WWE, he has freaky arms, but his chest is so small. Now I have heard that he says he works his chest hard but it just won't grow. Or what about guys like Nasser, Yates, Coleman, Kovacs? Do you think they could get any bigger? I mean it wouldn't be safe for them to get bigger, but could they? I have been thinking about this alot lately. I believe that with so many steroids out there, they are the "missing link" so to speak in our evolutionary design, and that one or more kinds of steroid may work really well for some but not for others. How many of you have tried a steroid that didn't work very well or not at all even though you did everything you were supposed to do? Sorry for all the questions bros and sis's, but I just want to know where everyone is att. Peace!

 

[G2]

Some guys will never have a big chest. Just like another guy might never see 21" arms. Good example: Shaquille O'Neal shoots free throws all day long and still only shoots about 48% in a game. Steroids help to push your genetic levels.

 

[Mudge]

We've talked about genetics, and hell yes it still matters.

Someone with a single mutated (impotent) Myostation gene + gear is still going to spank the shyt out of Joe Nobody on gear unless Myostatin boy is not working out or eating well.

Genetics + gear versus shitty genetics + gear, duuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh gear is great but it doesn't fix everything. Its not just hormone levels, its not just receptor counts (which are genetics), nature is complex in order to beat it at its own game you need as much on your side as you can get.

 

[needsize]

genetics sure do make a difference. Even on huge amounts of gear I still have trouble putting on size, but the gear has allowed me to slowly keep growing long after I passed my natural limits

 

[fr8tren]

there is not many who can dispute the fact genetics play a role, but i am not so sure that with proper supplementation, training and time you can overcome your genetics. BUT i am not saying the genetically inferior can/will make the same gains as someone who has superior genes, but i still dont think one can get discouraged because of their "poor genes".

from the waste up i am genetically blessed, very semetrical and grow easily.i unfortunately was cursed with what i call "runners legs". as hard as i train them, they are very narrow around the knee, but very thick in the upper quad region. dammit someday i will overcome these piss poor genes and have the nice teardrop and outside quad i always wanted.

you know what , guys--i think i have been babbling and i am not sure if any of this makes sense, sorry!!

 

[einstein1905]

Genetics in terms of what? Assuming no mutations that are relevant, we all have the same "genetics". the differences lie in the levels of expression of various genes. Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) does change the levels of expression of various genes as does GH, IGF-1, insulin, and just about everything we take in. By supplementing with the aforementioned, we're changing our genetics....not our genome itself, but our inherent levels at which certain genes are expressed. These "supplements" will alter expression levels relative to our own norms, but that doesn't mean that other people don't already have increased expression levels relative to us, so their using gear further increases the gap between themselves and us.

Myostatin was mentioned. GH reduces the expression of myostatin 25-40%, so even things like that are affected by Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use (and peptide hormones).
All men are not created equal though.

 

[hunter21]

Yeah, I do agree that all men are not created equal in matters of muscle and genetics...I for one have legs like fr8tren described, no calves but upper legs are nice..My chest will not grow, not even on gear. I get a good pump during my workouts, they get sore, strength goes up, but the size of my chest is still basically the same as it is before I started working out..The only difference is in the width...very sad....I cant wait for that gene doping shit to come my way..

 

[{R}a{G}e]

Genetics play a big role i think. For one, i have a buddy of mine that at the moment outweighs me by about 5 pounds i believe. I was heavier than him about three months ago. At one time, in his prime lifting he was upping close to 170 with a 5'5 frame, same as me. He stopped lifting, got very small, probably close to the 135 range i believe. Two months after starting to lift again, boom, the biceps were huge. Not only this fact but the fact that he weighs so close to me but yet hes so much bigger, I'm currently at 7 or 8 % body fat, he may be a tad lower but he def. is gifted in the genetics area, no matter how hard i hit the weights while he was gone, he came back so much quicker than i could put the muscle on, this is not all just muscle memory either.

To genetics i say fuck mine, they are shitty but i'll be damned if they are going to stop me from reaching my goals :}

 

[G2]

If you friend was big once then stopped lifting and started again that probably had more to do with muscle memory than genetics.

 

[Bigdaddy29]

I agree if u stop lifting, lose some mass & then start again & re-gain mass, it's not genetics.. it's muscle memory

 

[ForeverAesthetic]

I agree if u stop lifting, lose some mass & then start again & re-gain mass, it's not genetics.. it's muscle memory

Another bumped thread? Skinny virgin.